evans family

[J.M. Flannery]

Sorry Justin, I should have explained what G.P.V. was but this will explain it better than I can.

Griffiths Primary Valuation of Ireland

"This was a survey of property occupiers in Ireland made between 1848 and 1864 and it's importance lies in the fact that it lists almost every head of household for each county.
(Only head of household as they were responsible for payment of the tax)

Explanation of the Griffiths Primary Valuation

This valuation records every landowner and householder in Ireland in a period shortly after the famine.

Julia

An Act was passed in 1826 that allowed for a uniform valuation of property in all Ireland in order to levy the county cess charges and grand Jury Rates. Thus began an assessment of the whole country, county by county by Sir Richard Griffith.

Amendments were passed to the 1826 Act, the first in 1831 excluded those houses under the annual valuation of £3, another in 1836 excluded houses under £5

The information given in the Griffiths is the following:
The townland address and householders name; the name of the person from whom the property is leased; a description of the property; the acreage and the valuation.

If a surname was common in an area then the surveyors adopted the practise of indicating the fathers name to show the difference between two people of the same Christian name and surname (usually).

So Tadgh O'Brien (Michael) is the son of Michael O'Brien and Tadgh O'Brien (James) is the son of James O'Brien. However, here in Ireland people of the same name could/can be distinguished simply by indicating the colour of their hair (as gaeilge - thru Irish ) so it would have been sufficient in those instances to indicate that one Tadgh had red hair and one Tadgh black - calling them respectively Tadgh (Red) O'Brien and Tadgh (Black) O'Brien

To confuse those who come in search of ancestors has always been the ambition of the very Ancestors!!"

[nitsuj]

julia
thats great stuff
and very informative
thanks

[enfield]

Two Evans were killed in ww1 they were from Greystones and Wicklow Town.
 Regards.
 Tom.

[J.M. Flannery]

Hi Justin,

I belive you are already in touch with another researcher of the Evans family who is has been to a number of W.W. graves. His ancestors I think still live in the Tobberpatrick, Tinahealy area.

JMF

[nitsuj]

hi julia
as it turns out he seems to be a cousin of mine
justin

[J.M. Flannery]

Hi Justin,

have been away for a few weeks, back last week. While tidying up some papers I came across the following birth, I know some of the Evans family still live in the Delgany area, and thought this may come in useul to you some day.

Births registered in the District of Delgany, in the Union of Rathdrum, in the County of Wicklow by Henry Peter Bworn, Registrar.
"Entry no 169: 18th February 1867 at Delgany:
Isaac, male, son of John Evans, Delgany and Rosciak (I think?) formerly Gerrard, father's occ = Farmer. Birth was registered by John Evans, Father, Delgany 26th February 1867."

Julia

[nitsuj]

hi there
thanks for that extra piece of info
justin

[J.M. Flannery]

Have finally worked out the relationship of yourself and my son-in-law.

Richard Ayres (Ernest) Evans bc 1871-12 Nov 1923: Married 22nd October 1879
Margaret Doyle bc 1860 - 16th February 1937.
The great grandparents of Justin & John P Corkish
children of above
     1 John Evans 1884 - 1963 maried Elizabeth ?
          1a Myles Evans = nitsuj's Father

     2 Julia Evans 1886 - 1966 married c 1911 to Thomas Corkish 1885 - 1947
          2a Thomas Philip Corkish 1919 - 1989 My son-in-law's father

You are 2nd cousins, as you both share the same great grandparents
 

The above Richard & Margaret were the great-great grandparents of John Goodman which makes him your 2nd cousin once removed

Regards Julia

[J.M. Flannery]

Is this one of your Evans?

" 22681. L/Cpl. William Moore Evans.; age 28 yrs " (bc 1889) " 9th Batt. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.
Killed in action 16th August 1917 at Frezenburg Ridge. Son of Mary J. Evans of 1 Malvern, Greystones, Co Wicklow.
No known grave. Commemorated on the Tynecot Memorial, Belgium".

Julia