Richard Ticehurst (base born)...Look up please.

[jard]

Richard Ticehurst was born 20/7/1783.

He was baptised/registered alongside two other children, who were the children of James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce.

In the East Sussex Records, Richard is recorded as 'base born  son of Ann'.

Who was Ann ?......sister or sister in law of James?

As Richard was a Ticehurst it seems likely to have been a family thing.

Anyone have access too, or visiting to view, the Barstady Bonds records, who would look kindly upon my problem,  and have a look for me....please ! 

Regards
Jard

[kerryb]

Hi Jard

You don't say where in East Sussex Richard was born?

Did you know many bastardy bonds can be found on the A2A website http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp

Kerry

[jard]

Hi Kerry
Thanks for your response.
As far as I know, my Richard Ticehurst was born in Eastbourne.His baptism, along with the children of James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce baptism, would have been at St.Mary's.
I have looked at the A2A site but can't see any reference to Richard or his mother Ann.

[kerryb]

On family search I just found James Ticehurst born 1753 at Jevington married Abigail Pierce there 1778, although that marriage I did not find on Sussex Marriage Index.  Need a second look.

Funnily enough an Ann Ticehurst married Edward Miller of Eastbourne at Jevington on 1 July 1783 

Kerry

[kerryb]

No marriage definitely not on Sussex Marriage Index and I have just noticed the Family Search entry is submitted not extracted, presumably they did marry as they had children seen on the parish registers. 

Kerry

[jard]

I have searched high and low for any info regarding James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce, but there are no records anywhere. Every entry is a 'member submitted'. There is nothing on the SMI.

As before...the baptism/registration entry in St Mary's shows as;-

James.....b 21/11/1779  son of James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce
Samuel...b 18/7/1786    son of James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce
Barbara..b 18/3/1783    daughter of James Ticehurst and Abigail Pierce
Richard...b 20/7/1783    base born  son of Ann

There are only two option I think
1. James had a child outside his marriage by a woman called Ann and Abigail excepted it into her family.....or

2. Ann was a sister of James who had the child (Richard) and he was baptised along with the others to avoid family embarassment

I think the only place where Richard's father (or parents) would be listed is in the parish bastardy bonds.  I think the parish would be either Eastbourne St Mary or Jevington.

[kerryb]

Hi Jard

I had a good search on the IGI last night and as you say they are member submitted records.  I think maybe then that James and Abigail married outside Sussex, maybe Abigail was not from Sussex.

I agree that either Eastbourne St Mary or Jevington should include Richard's parents in the bastardy bonds.  My money is on Ann being James's sister.

Kerry

[jard]

Thanks again Kerry
So pleased you are of the same opinion as me about Ann being James's sister because that's the avenue I have been following for a while now.

Just another of those brick walls until I can some info from the Bastady Bond entries. Just hope someone goes there one day and feels sorry for me 

Jard

[kerryb]

Well if nobody else goes for you, I am sure I will be making a visit at some point in the next couple of months, I usually like to go over at least 3 times a year. 

Kerry