EVANS Family Revisited

[MaccaAddison]

In 1871 There's a George Evans 11 mths living in Toddington with parents William and Mary Ann.

George Evans eventually married Alice Taylor (we have marriage certificate confirming William as George's father - married on 15/10/1842 George was 22, ALice 21).

We are convinced this is now the family but cannot trace backwards the family does not seem to show on previous census despite being born in Toddington.

Unless I have missed it.

Really need some help and everyone was very helpful before.

Thanks

Mark

[Ecneps]

Hi Mark

perhaps you were looking for William and he's listed as Willm

1861 census RG 9/1004  Folio 27    Page 14   
Luton Street, Toddington, Bedfordshire
EVANS
Willm     head   26 Agricultural Labourer
Mary A    wife    25 Straw Plaiter
Sarah        dau     5  Straw Plaiter
Elizth J        "        3 
David    son    9months
all born Toddington
 

Barbara
 
 
 

[Ecneps]

IGI has the marriage:

11 Nov 1855      Toddington, Bedford
William EVANS  Father - Samuel EVANS     Spouse -  Mary Ann WEST

Freebmd  gives them different refs for the marriage:
Dec Qu 1855 Woburn  3b   954    EVANS    William
Dec Qu 1855 Woburn  3b    953    WEST  Mary Ann       
have checked the GRO scan it's correct, but on freebmd Willliam is the only person listed on page 954 but 5 people listed on page 953 (2 men & 3 women) so perhaps a mistake on the original

1851 census HO107/1755 Folio 350 Page  1
address:  Fancy, Toddington
EVANS
Samuel     49 Agricultural Labourer
Mary        45  Lace Maker          edit - born Eversholt Evershott
James      19  Agricultural Labourer
William     17        "              "
Jane         14 Platter of Straw
George      7       "         "
Joseph       4

Samuel and children all born Toddington 
 
Barbara   

[MaccaAddison]

Barbara 

Thanks alot - you seem to know where to look. What is the IGI ?

You seem to confirm the 11/11/1855 as the wedding date then for William.

What is the Evershott - is that a place or maiden name of Mary.

How do I now go back to Samuel - it would appear he was born approx 1802. Is there census info back then.

What are the best reference sites.

Thanks for all your help.

Best regards

Mark

[Ecneps]

Hi Mark,

I wasn't sure how much you knew about family research, so didn't explain too much, did I?  It might be worth your looking at the Beginners Boards on Rootschat for lots of information and hints on the best places to find your information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,47.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,290.0.html

You can order the marriage certificate for William using the reference numbers I gave you. Dec Quarter 1855 Woburn  3b   954    EVANS    William
Here's the link to the online GRO site for certificate ordering:
 www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

The IGI is the International Geonealogical Index -   for baptisms, marriage and other information collected by the Latter Day Saints Church from parish records and from members' family trees
http://www.familysearch.org

In 1851 census Eversholt in Bedfordshire (have edited my earlier Evershott!) was the place of birth of Mary, as I said below, all children and Samuel were born Toddington

The next step is the 1841 census, although you said you hadn't been able to find him, I will have a look.  Then you need to find his marriage and baptism from parish records

Kind regards
Barbara
 

[MaccaAddison]

You are a star Barbara.

Yes, you guessed it - I am a little new to this. Although I have had some successes.

I have found some information from a spreadsheet someone has prepared about criminal offenses in the area - there is a entry for 1829 - Samuel and Joseph Evans - 24 and 22 respectively. Charged with hard labour for rioting - presume in Toddington. There are a few with same charge in Toddington. Not sure if they are related but maybe some connection.

Not sure what was going on in 1829 in Toddington and what constitute a riot.

I am trying to build a picture up of the family and what they were up to - how did they get to Toddington and why did George (my grandfather's dad) move to Reading, Berkshire in late 1890 / early 1900.

I am so interested in this now.

lol

Regards

Mark

[tazzie]

   Hello  All....

  Hope you don't mind me skipping in ...

  IGI also has this ...

 James Evans bapt Toddington 2nd Oct 1831 father Samuel
                                                                       mother Elizabeth.

 William bapt 1834 father Samuel
                              mother Elizabeth
 Jane bapt 1837 father Samuel
                             mother Betsey

  George bapt 1844 father Samuel
                                mother Mary

  Joseph bapt 1846 father Samuel
                                mother Mary.

  Other children to Samuel & Elizabeth are  Mary Ann b 1825
    Joseph b 1828 died 1828......Sally 1829

  There is a member submitted entry for a marriage ...

  North Crawley 1823 18 Aug
    Samuel Evans ( of Toddington) to
   Elizabeth Robinson.
 North Crawley PR would need to be checked for that one ...and I am aiming to do some look ups in the next few days so will add that one.

  2nd marriage gives us ...

 Toddington 1843 29 Jan  Samuel Evans father Joseph
                                  to Mary Odell         father John.

  Mary Odell bap Eversholt 30 June 1805 father John
                                                                mother Elizabeth.

  Will get back with North Crawley PR.

                    Tazzie

[Ecneps]

1841 census listed as EVENS - adult ages in 1841 census were usually rounded down to nearest 5 yrs

1841 HO107/5/34 Folio 4 Page 3
address:  Square, Toddington, Bedfordshire
EVENS
Samuel    35  Ag Lab
Mary Ann 15
Sarah      13
James       9
William      7
Jane          5
all born Bedfordshire


and here's Samuel in 1861

RG 9/1004  Folio 55    Page 1    
address: The Fancy, Toddington, Bedfordshire
EVANS
Samuel     head  60  Agricultural Labourer      Toddington
Mary    wife    54 Agricultural Labourers Wife     Eversholt
George    son     17 Agricultural Labourer    Toddington
Joseph    son     13 Agricultural Labourer           "
 

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Hi Tazzie,

Yes, I thought Samuel must have been married twice, as Mary isn't on the 1841 census and children George & Joseph come a little later than the others


Barbara