Blakely/Bleakley in Newtownards

[wildfowl]

here are the census forms i have found for john taylor
1851 census address victoria place,west derby,lancashire
john taylor born 1811 prescot lancashire occupation tailor
wife margaret born 1818 wales occupation tailor
children
john born 1831 prescot occupation shoe maker
ann born 1840 west derby school
THOMAS born 1842 ,,,,           ,,
mary         ,,    1844    ,,           ,,
hannah     ,,    1846    ,,          ,,
richard       ,,    1848     ,,         ,,
margaret   ,,     1851    ,,         ,,

~~~~~~~~--------------------1841 census swan row,walton on the hill,west derby,lancashire
john taylor born 1811   lancashire occupation tailor
margaret     ,,      1811      ,,,
children
shadrach      ,,,     1830      ,,,
john              ,,       1831     ,,,
jane              ,,,       1835      ,,,
richard          ,,,,       1837       ,,
anne             ,,,         1839      ,,,

those are the 2 census"s i have found i think they may all go over to ireland.you will notice margaret changes from being born in lancashire to wales.

[akanex2]

Were the Taylor's Methodist in Lancashire or only on coming to Co Down?

[wildfowl]

now thomas taylor 1851 census above post
1861 census
address 3,5 court,wood street east,west derby,liverpool
he is living with brother shadrach who is down as a boot and shoe maker
thomas taylor occupation is journey man and boot and shoe maker
~~~~~~~~-------------------1863 living in newtonards ireland address high street hes a boot and shoe maker marriage to anna carroll who is living on church street
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1867 living newtonards ireland address regent street this comes fron richard carroll taylors birth certificate
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we then know that they live on frances street because fiona put the baptism records on but also
1877 BELFAST/ULSTER STREET DIRECTORY OF TRADERS he has a shop thomas taylor frances street boot and shoe maker
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1881 census
they go back to west derby england
the street address is 5 denman street
between 1881 and 1891 anna carroll dies in west derby
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1891 census
they are now in the isle of man
the address is onchan,douglas,isle of man and its 48 strand street thomas is still a boot and shoe maker the shop is now a wh smiths if you want to look at the present premises.
~~~~~~~~-------------------1901 census
back to england living in bolton lancashire the address is 160 mornington road thomas is now a music and book dealer
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1911 census still in bolton on mornington road occupation music and book dealer
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thomas taylors occupation does change but we did know about that before we started searching we did know there was a connection with liverpool but we didnt relise he was born there.

[wildfowl]

i am not sure whether they were methodist before or after they arrived in ireland.
i havent found a lot on the carrolls i have
john h carroll son of richard married bessy j lindsay 7 november 1854 newtonards.
richard carrol of church street leased from the marquis of londonderry 2 houses on church street and half acre lane these are in the griffiths valuation for 1863 and anna gives her address as church street.
and then i found this the dates it would make him to be too old for richard carroll but it could be his dad
richard carroll of church street newtonards died 20 december 1847 aged 86 buried st patricks church of ireland graveyard.
thats all the information about them we have at the moment

[papercut]

Hmm came across this on google and just had to reply. I came across a John Bleakey/Blakely (depending on sources) whilst researching a topic for my dissertation. I came across this man who was convicted of murder of his son Felix but his family was convinced he thought his son was a changeling (interesting story). It would be interesting to see if he is a relative of your Bleakey purely as its an interesting character to be related to. Anyways the trial date was in 1840 and he has a sister named Anne Finly.

[akanex2]

Very interesting - what can you tell me about the John who was convicted?

I'm pretty sure it's not the same guy as my John was living in Newtownards with his daughter, son in law & 2 sons in the 1851 census.

[Antrim777]

Hi, my great grandfather, James Robinson emigrated to Boston 1889 and lived in Chelsea with his wife, and his father in law, William Gilmore.  In the census of 1900, he also had three boarders-  a James Blakeley, who was born in 1886 and immigration was in 1889.  My grandfather came from Holestone, Antrim Ireland.  I wonder if this blakeley could be related to his wife, Mary Margaret Gilmore Robinson.

[akanex2]

My gt gt grandfather had a brother James Blakely born in 1869 who married in Scotland in 1893. No connection to Gilmour or Robinson though.

[Mary Hutchison]

have a blakely family tree going back to 1768 if its helpful to anyone