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COMPLETED: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« on: Wednesday 14 January 09 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi,  :)

I've located a potential burial record for a rather elusive Great, great, grandfather, who appearance on the census returns has been limited.

The burial took place in 1901 in Ford RC Cemetery Liverpool, which ties in, and the age of the deceased (John Jordan) - 49 years, ties in thereabouts with the sketchy 1853/54/55 birth year I have. I was hoping to tie the burial to the last known address from the 1901 Census, however, where the address would usually be, the phrase 'Coroner's Order' is typed.

What does this mean??? How do I take this further in order to hopefully link this burial to my ancestor?

Regards

Pablo
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 13:48 GMT (UK) »
This would mean that there had been an inquest, or that at least the coronor was informed of the death.  You often see this sort of thing for people who had drowned in the Thames for example.

You could try to seek out a report in the newspaper or the inquest report.  I suspect you would get more information from the newspaper report.

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Re: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Ah, so, if I search the local papers around the time prior to the burial...

The main thing I'm after is an address, as this will link it to the address I have etc.
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Any unexpected death where there is no medical presence is referred to the coroner.  Often this results in a reply that it is not considered there is anything to investigate.  However if the issue of the death certificate is delayed by the coroner when he gives his permission it will be recorded on the certificate.

In only a proportion of these cases will there have been an inquest and in that instance it will usually be recorded that the certificate was issued after an inquest.  Even if there was an inquest, that will only be reported in local papers if there was something suspicious or of general interest about the death.

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DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 18:25 GMT (UK) »
My gt grandfather died when he fellinto the canal and drowned.  I managed to locate the newspaper article via the local newspaper, and it did give his address.
Heap - Holmfirth WRY
Rhodes-Flockton WRY & NE Cheshire
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Greaves - NE Cheshire & Lancashire

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COMPLETED: Re: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Found him... :D

Went to the Record Office after work and searched the Coroner's Inquiry Register. Gave cause, and more importantly, the address I needed to see, in order to tie the record to my tree.

Mystery solved.  :)
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: COMPLETED: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Can you for completeness tell us why his death was referred to the coroner please.
Such information helps us answer future queries.

David
Living in Berkshire from Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: COMPLETED: Burial record - 'Coroner's Order' What do this mean?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 January 09 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, of course!  ::)  :)

It stated that death was due to 'Shock consequent upon a fall from ship's wire lopping (could be topping? ???) lift'.

EDIT: Just carried out a Google search, and it would be 'topping lift'...

The entry contained an impressive level of information really i.e. Resident address, Date of inquiry, Place and date of death as well as cause, obviously.

Regards

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland