Any Ideas?

[mariahswind]

Need ideas about this family:

It's rather confusing.

Charles and Mary Ann Pheasey have the following children with them in 1861:

Bessie A. Davis age 10
William Pheasey age 5
Henry Pheasey age 3
Harriet Pheasey age 1

I found Charles Pheasey m. Mary Ann Davis in 1859 Banbury District according to the Free BMD. I can not find a parish record for their marriage.

I found Mary Ann Davis with her husband John Davis in 1851 along with two children, Elizabeth and Caroline. I found both of their cr. records in Long Itchington. I also found a parish marriage record for Mary Ann Gramshaw and John Davis 1847 St Marys Warwick.

Now the mix gets better, Harriet is cr. Harriet Esther Davis with only her mother Mary Ann Davis mentioned in 1860 Radway. This is supposedly after Mary Ann's marriage to Charles? And I can't even find William's cr. he was supposedly born in Southam. I found Henry cr. Henry Charles Pheasey in 1858 (before their marriage) in Radway to Charles Pheasey and Mary Ann. All very topsey turvy and confusing. My ancestor is Edith Pheasey cr. 1863 St Mary, Warwick parents Charles Pheasey and Mary Ann. (oh and Edith Pheasey marries Joseph Payne and move to Canada, having several children including Mary Ann Gramshaw Payne!)

Any ideas about what's going on here. To make matters worse she's supposedly dead by 1871 with Charles (he's consistently a Shoemaker on most census' I find him) lodging somewhere and henry is in the banbury workhouse, can't find my ancestress, Edith anywhere in 1871.

[CaroleW]

Per freebmd

Births September qtr 1860   
 
Harriet Esther  PHEASEY Banbury  3a 589

Charles was single and with his parents in 1851 

with Charles (he's consistently a Shoemaker on most census' I find him)

Not in 1861 - agricultural labourer

[mariahswind]

 

with Charles (he's consistently a Shoemaker on most census' I find him)

Not in 1861 - agricultural labourer

Yes thats why i said most... because he's a ag lab on the 1861...

Interesting that she is cr. davis but registered pheasey... thanks for checking that

kind regards,
shanan

[mariahswind]

Updating new findings.

in 1871 Edith Mary and Esther are with Caroline (Agnes Caroline Davis) & David Winter with the surnames Davis.

William Pheasey is found in the Warwickshire Reformatory in Weston as a youthful offender.

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
If you look at the christening for Harriet Esther Davis at Radway 30.9.1860 there is a note below made by the Vicar
She has been married to another man Charles Pheasey during the life time of her former husband from whom she has not been legally separated.
So Mary Ann Davis was a bigamist.The Vicar was refusing to acknowledge Charles as her husband so Harriet was baptised as Davis.
This may explain why banns were read for the couple back in 1854 -5th-19th November at Leamington Priors but no marriage went ahead.
If the vicar knew in 1860 presumably the law must have been informed at some stage perhaps this is why the couple are separated in 1871.
It looks like William as Fessey had been baptised at Radway 6.12 1857 to a John and Mary Ann Fessey labourer .
So Mary Ann must have been changing her story for the Vicar and eventually he got suspicious.

Edith Mary Pheasey is baptised 16.9.1863 at Warwick St Mary but if you look at the original it says she was born in gaol and baptised privately.By now the couple have been caught.The next two entries for Mary and Margaret Russell and their children Edith and Mary are also at the gaol so the vicar CE Carles must have made a visit.(He is not the usual incumbent either)

There are a couple of possible entries for both in the following years
Charles Fessey 29.2.1864 innocent of larceny
Charles Fessey 2.1.1866 innocent of recieving a stolen sheep
Mary Ann Davis 3.8.1863 forgery 12months
Mary Davies 9.1.1865 seven years for larceny with a previous conviction.
Mary Ann Davis 23.10.1871 larceny from a person with a previous conviction 7 years
There is a Mary Ann Davis in and out of prison up to 1887 but not sure if she is yours
 Perhaps newspaper reports would help.
The 1863 incident was a forged cheque and reported in a couple of papers on FindMyPast.

Sorry if I shocked you

Ciderdrinker

[mariahswind]

Oooooohhhh thank you so much! I love genealogical excitement!

[mariahswind]

@ciderdrinker are these original parish record images available online? As well as the penal records?


So glad findmypast is having a free weekend so I can see the newspaper articles! I'm sitting here waiting for it to start LOL!

[mariahswind]

Got to read the newspapers from 1863, that is definitely the same Mary Ann Davis. Funnily enough a CE Carles is mentioned as one of the bank officers defrauded in her forgery case. Maybe since he knew her he came to do the baptism and as a result did a couple of others.