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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 January 09 17:27 GMT (UK) »
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Who did she marry?  Have you given us her maiden name or her married name?
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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 January 09 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Good point, Andrea.  We'll have to wait for a reply from Lorraine,

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 January 09 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane & Kerry

Thanks for trying. Lydia married James Matthews though I have no info on the marriage but this isn't unusual within travellers as sometimes they didn't actually marry just became life partners!

On the 1851 census I have Lydia & James this is where I found her place of birth from. I was trying to attach a copy for you to look at but I don;t know how to do it on here  ::)

I have all the info on the children and their children, I also can go back to James Grand parents but I can't find anything on where Lydia came from or anything about her parents.

Thanks again

Lorraine

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 January 09 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Seems a bit of a mystery, Lorraine  ???  Also seems odd that Lydia with a father who's a vicar, should marry a traveller  :-\

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Just had a look at the 1851 census for Lydia on which it staes she was 40 years old - making a birth date of 1811 not 1807 as stated?

As she has children aged 12, she should be on the 1841 census as well.

Her residence in 1851 is Iping, parish of Midhurst, but it does state she was born in Battle, Sussex.  Her first child was born in Sussesx, but the other 3 were born in Surrey - all four in different places which suggests a travelling family, although her husband does not have an occupation listed.

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris & Jane

Chris interested to hear they had 12 children as I only have 7, can you give me the rest of the info or where to find it please. I will need to look at my notes to see where Lydia's birthdate of 1807 came from but nothing is set in stone on these things  ::)

James Matthews was the great Chewbacca Matthews champion bare knuckle fighter. According to a family poem Lydia met James when the fair came to Ewell and that as soon as she saw him she knew they would marry, even though she was a latin scholar and her father was a preacher.

many many thanks again

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Rowland

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Chris just read your post again you didn't say 12 children  ;D must be tired !!!

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 24 January 09 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Lorraine,

Do you know the branch of the Church in which Lydia's father preached?

I guess it wasn't the CoE because the surname "Gowan" returns no hits in the clergy database.

http://eagle.cch.kcl.ac.uk:8080/cce/index.html

If her father was nonconformist you might have trouble finding Lydia's baptism in Anglican registers.  There are records of nonconformist baptisms, but they aren't always location-specific.

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Re: Lydia Gowan
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 January 09 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Stovepipe

That must be an incomplete list of Clergy

My wife has two EASTWOOD ancestors who were both clergy during the early and mid 1800's, but niether of them are included in that list on the website you gave.  They both went to Cambridge and are included in their lists?

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