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Double Row
« on: Wednesday 28 January 09 10:10 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi, I was hoping that someone with a good knowledge of the Blyth area (Mike? :P) could tell me whereabouts in present day Blyth that Double Row, Cowpen Colliery would be? Was it part of Isabella? Thankyou
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Dunn,Coombs,Dalrymple,Newman,Elliott, Embleton,Day
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Re: Double Row
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 16:29 GMT (UK) »
If it was Cowpen Colliery, I think Double Row would have been next to Bolam ave at the side of where Blyth Sports Centre is Now,  I can recall my Grandmother mention Badgers Row and that was in Cowpen Colliery at the same site I am on about,  Maybe Michael Dixon will know

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Re: Double Row
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 19:37 GMT (UK) »


I have (or I think I have) somewhere the names of all colliery rows for Blyth area.

But while I dig around for my stuff, to help can you add an ish-date and maybe place/area.

Because.... I can see a map of Blyth that show FOUR  Cowpen Collieries
( named after a coal company rather than the  place- the Bella the youngest one!)

A fifth colliery/pit at Low Horton got it's name from a different coal company,   
 The New Delaval Coal Compny- which then gave it's name to that part of Blyth.


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Re: Double Row
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 19:59 GMT (UK) »


There was a Double Row in/at
 
*Cowpen Colliery- "A" Pit or South Pit ( near todays Baths)
*Cowpen Colliery-Isabella Pit ( also named South Row, probably before it was Double")
 
*New Delaval Colliery- Forster Pit
*Newsham Colliery

And also at Seaton Delaval Colliery.


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Re: Double Row
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Re Double Row

Michael re Isabella Colliery as you came over the bridge from Cowpen the first row at Isabella was South row which backed on to west row a cross the street which is a road through was east row which backed on to New Row, the area which south row and west row stood is now called West Court

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Re: Double Row
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help. I have two families marrying into each other and they were neighbours in Double Row, Cowpen colliery.
Amos,Burnside,Cowan,Hamilton,Lawrie,Reid,Skeldon,(East Lothian, Berwickshire)
Matthew,Tough,Sheriff,Guild,Gourlay,Cundall,Brown(Angus,Midlothian&Australia)
Dunn,Coombs,Dalrymple,Newman,Elliott, Embleton,Day
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Cameron, Perthshire

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Re: Double Row
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 January 09 01:19 GMT (UK) »
It all depends on when this marriage took place.  Although the Isabella opened in 1849 the houses were not built until some time later.  Double Row appears for the first time in the 1881 census therefore built sometime between 1871 and 1881.  Prior to that the workers lived in the rows built for Cowpen A pit (where the baths are) which, I believe, had closed by that time.

There is a William Dalrymple (noted from your surname interests) living at 9 Double Row in the 1881 census.

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Re: Double Row
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 January 09 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes, both families (Coombs and Dalrymple) were there at Double Row on the 1881 census...by the time of the next one they had moved to Pegswood then Ashington where they stayed. So Isabella Colliery?
Amos,Burnside,Cowan,Hamilton,Lawrie,Reid,Skeldon,(East Lothian, Berwickshire)
Matthew,Tough,Sheriff,Guild,Gourlay,Cundall,Brown(Angus,Midlothian&Australia)
Dunn,Coombs,Dalrymple,Newman,Elliott, Embleton,Day
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McPherson , Perth, Scotland
Cameron, Perthshire

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Re: Double Row
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 January 09 11:30 GMT (UK) »


Will you believe this ?

All from 1881 Census.

The Coombs ( page ref 5092-67-3) are Double Row at Cowpen Colliery.

This was within census sub-district 7c ( Enumerator Luke Robinson describes this area on 5092-31- in fact he describes 7a-7b-7c together.

The rows following Double Row on the census are Gas Row, Badger Row, Gas Row , Middle Row.

The Double Row of this colliery was parallel to Railway Terrace, but on other side of the railway line. Coming up from Blyth, up Marlow St, at the top, ignore the temptation of the Cowpen Colliery Inn ( now The Top House) cross the railway by the pedestrian bridge ( both line and bridge now gone). On the left would be Double Row, on the right Gas Row, with Badger Row up from the right. Today this area is covered by Bolam Avenue etc.

You can just about see this patch on the old maps on web site
communities.northumberland.gov.uk,  in the Ordnance Survey maps in the Blyth section.... on 1920 25" version--- to the extrem left of the map.

Now to the Dalrymple family, as already said, were at 9 Double Row on census page 5092-67-3. Enumerator John Turnbull has made it easy for us by not just describing the sub-district- 8a- on page 5092-85, but by heading the address column on each page with "Isabella Colliery, Double Row"

So........... the two families on C1881, lived in a Double Row, but different ones !

Everyone please free to knock back this unlikely coincidence ??

Michael Dixon
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
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