COMPLETE Albert Edward Lenton born c.1898

[Al in Vane]

Can't you find Albert Hatton in the 1911, surely that would prove the birth place?

[Necromancer]

you mean Lenton ?

1911 might help if Father and son are together, with those exact names .... but the problem is that he's not 'seen' until his marriage, and how accurate is his age, and just as likely to be the similar situation to 1901  .... and 1911 is pricey ....

[Al in Vane]

I thought his name was Albert Hatton Lenton....

1911 is pricey I gather and I have never paid for anything in FH but you can search the names for free. With the clues you already have it may give you a guide.

[Jojo]

Al in Vane - just to be clear - I have searched censuses, including the name index of 1911 and not found an Albert Hatton Lenton or any approximate result.  Trust me, it's the first search I did.


I cannot find on the 1911 index our main suspect Lily Lenton (nee Eade) with Albert Lenton born Chelsea 1897/98 (or separately).  I am wondering if they were out of the country especially as we know her husband wasn't with her in 1901, but while the 1911 is incomplete, there's still the possibility they're hiding out somewhere.

Waiting now for the 1871 birth certificate... will let you know results.
Cheers

[Jojo]

Great news!! 

Birth certificate confirms Albert Henry Amor Hatton Lenton.  Born 28 April 1871, 108 Denmark Road, Kilburn.  Father Edward Lenton, bricklayer.  Mother Harriett Lenton formerly Riches.

Especially great to match up to the Lenton/Amor marriage you found, Newf - many many thanks.

Now I'm wondering whether the Hatton part relates to Harriett's mother's maiden name.  Don't have time to get searching right now, but it's certainly opened things up.

Cheers
Jojo 

[Necromancer]

Excellent - love it when a plan comes together 

One of the times that a 'submitted' IGI entry is correct too !

according to the 1851 & 1841 cenus, and submitted IGI records, Edward's dad is a Charles and married an Ann Amor in 1821, Sarum, St Martins (Salisbury)

Want me to have a tickle at the Riches side ?

 

[Necromancer]

Births Dec 1838   

RICHES  Harriet Elizabeth     Marylebone  1 152   

Births Mar 1840   
 
Rich  Harriet     Westminster  1 390   

Births Mar 1841   
 
Riches  Harriet     Marylebone  v1 p198

think the last lass is the one - best match to 1871 anyway ....

she can be seen in the 1841 enumerated as Richers - shown YoB 1837, but looks like she's 4 months on the image. Siblings are up to 15+, so not going to find a Civil marriage ... if its the right girl ?


1851, might be her shown as a granddau' in Kent - householders named East ....


anyways, dont want to steal your thunder, will wait to see what you find 

[Jojo]

Okay.  Ready?  (I'm a bit worried that I'm drifting off topic here, sorry if so - perhaps I ought to close this thread after this reply??).

Thanks for your searches, Newf.  I picked up from what you'd done and looked at Edward and Harriet Lenton through the censuses.  Easy to find right up to 1901 - consistent with ages and place of birth.

In 1911, I searched the name index for an Edward Lenton with Harriett - only one comes up in Fulham - age 68 as expected.  Harriett Lenton with Edward - two come up, but one is in Fulham, so they look like our people.  BUT her age is 65.

So I checked FreeBMD for a death and yes, a Harriett Lenton died in Fulham March 1919 aged 72, which would put her DOB at 1846/47.  Check for the birth and there's Harriett Riches Dec 1846 Marylebone v1 177.

I found her in 1851:

24 Exeter St, Marylebone
Henry Richies H 77 Gardener b. Norwich, Norfolk
Sarah             Wf 46               b. Marylebone
Sarah             dau 7                b. Marylebone
Harriet           dau 4                 b. Marylebone
HO107/1490/394/24


Thought I'd try FreeBMD for the marriage and this came up:
Mar 1840 Marylebone v1 165
Henry Riches - lots of others on page but among them Sarah Marrian Hilton.  Can't check whether it's a mistranscription, because the image is a typed one.

Only two characters away from the elusive Hatton - or am I just seeing what I want to see??? 

[Jojo]

In 1861, there's a crazy household which could be the right one...

RG9/85/13/28

... Sarah M Riches, aged 55 ... (among others, struggling to make sense of this one).

If Henry really was 77 in 1851, very likely died by then.