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Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« on: Wednesday 28 January 09 23:00 GMT (UK) »
??? Hello I am a total newbie at this game so please bare with me......

I am looking for any information on my Great Grandmother Sarah Jane Robinson who was born in sept 1/4  1875 in Kendal. ............At the moment I am waiting for her birth certificate to arrive...bu I though I would try and start the ball rolling a little.......
I know she went on the marry Thomas Kelly in 1915 in Prestwich Manchester, and she refused to give details of her father down on the wedding certificate.......
As far as I know she came from the farming background and generally went back to help with the laborers when it was harvest time.......

Sarah Jane and Thomas had four children Patrick DOB 1906...Margaret Robinson Kelly DOB March 1908, Sarah Jane Kelly DOB June 1910, and Thomas Kelly  DOB Nov 1914.....They were all born in the Manchester area......

But I'm totally stuck on Sarah.......seem to have lost the track with her and her family.......
Hope this is not too long winded.........

I would appreciate if I have posted anything wrong you would please let me know.......

Trust  xx

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi trust
I hope this is your lady, seems to fit

1881

Sarah Jane Robinson      7    Kendal         Dau      Scholar
William Edgar               34    Mansergh    Head     Ag Lab
Dinah Elizabeth Edgar  27   Manchester  Wife       
Sarah Edgar                 5     Barlow           Dau      Scholar
Mary Edgar                   2     Middleton        #


3 Low Green

RG11/ 5211  Folio 41  Page  1

Kendal Kirkby Lonsdale

Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 January 09 00:13 GMT (UK) »
1871

William Edgar   23   Mansergh    Servant  Farm Servant
Mary Wilson     27   Kendal         Head      farmer
Agnes Wilson   20     #               Sister     dairymaid
Jane Wilson      19      #                #         Dom servant
phoebe Wilson  15      #               #          Scholar
Robert Wilson    13     #             Brother       #
Richard Wilson   10      #               #               #
Thomas Wilson   8       #               #                #
Henry Wilson      7        #               #                #
Isabella Wilson  6        #              Sister          #
Eleanor Wilson  4        #                 #

Benshank

RG10/5284  Folio  67  Page  4
Kendal Kirkby Lonsdale


Marriage William Edgar to Dinah Elizabeth Harris  Apr qtr 1874  West Ward Westmorland

1851

William Edgar   4     Mansergh    Son
?          Edgar   30    Tirrell          Head     Farm Labourer
Sarah Edgar     28   brough        Wife
Hannah Edgar  2     mansergh    Dau

HO107/2441  Folio 542  Page 6  Kendal Ambleside

The fathers name has been transcribed as rachel but upon looking at the image how they got that is unbelievable! Its a scribbled initial with a ii/o after it!


Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 January 09 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much AnnieCJ......

This is all interesting to me.........

Will go through it all with a fine tooth comb tomorrow.......

Seems funny that she has different name to the others.......

Hopefull the birth certificate will tell me why......

Again I so appreciate you taking the time and effort in helping me....

Trust x

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 January 09 00:24 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering that myself hence me tracking him thru time, haven't been able to locate him on the 1861 as yet....
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 January 09 00:41 GMT (UK) »
1861
No sign of William however I think this is his family
at least dads name was david!

David Edgar        44   Barton        Head   Shepherd
Sarah Edgar        42  Brough        Wife
Hannah Edgar     12  Mansergh    Dau    Scholar
Mary Edgar          9        #              #          #
Margaret Edgar   7        #              #         #
Jane Edgar          3        #               #          #
John Alderson    30   Thwaite     Lodger  Farm Bailiffe

8 Woodside Cottages

RG9/3968  Folio 54   Page 2 & 3
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 May 17 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Sarah Jane Kelly (nee Robinson) was my grandmother. Her son Thomas was my day. William James was born and died in 1905.
Margaret Robinson Kelly married in 1959 and died in 1966 - no children
Sarah Jane Kelly married in 1963 and died in 1966 - no children
Patrick Thomas Kelly was killed fighting a paper mill fire in 1934 aged 28. He married a lady named Mary and I believe they had a daughter, but I am still searching for his marriage and his daughters birth
My dad Thomas Kelly married in 1946 had 2 daughter and he died in 1980
Mary Kathleen was born in 1912 and again I have not been able to find any other information.
You are correct Sarah Jane did go into service, at some point met my granddad Thomas( who died some considerable time before I was born) again I am still investigating
I am still trying to solve the puzzle regarding my gran being named Robinson, living with Dinah and her husband and having 2 more children according to the 1911 census. I can only imagine that she was born before Dinah married William Edgar. 
Can you please explain tome how through the family line you are related to my grandmother as I was not aware that there were any living relatives apart from my sister and myself.
Any information would be gratefully received.

Regards

Maureen

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 May 17 14:28 BST (UK) »
 Hi Maureen welcome to Rootschat  :) I do not think that the OP Trust is registered any longer, the mods would confirm.

The 1875 birth that Trust mentioned has Mmn as Hodgson, I do not think the above census is correct for your Sarah Jane. All siblings have Mmn Hodgson.

ROBINSON, SARAH  JANE  Mmn     HODGSON
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in KENDAL  Volume 10B  Page 697
        
Think this maybe a possible

1881
Burton, Burton in Kendal, Kendal, Westmorland, England

Sarah   Robinson   Head   Widow   Female   54   Hutton Roof, Westmorland
George Robinson   Son   Single 29   General Labourer   Burton, Westmorland
John   Robinson   Son   Single   25   General Labourer   Burton, Westmorland
Mathew   Robinson   Son   Single 22   General Labourer   Burton, Westmorland
Thomas   Robinson   Son   Single 20   General Labourer   Burton, Westmorland
Charles   Robinson   Son   Single 10   Burton, Westmorland
Sarah J   Robinson   Daughter   Single 5 Burton, Westmorland

Born in Sept Q 1875, she would be 5 on census day, which was held April 1881

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Sarah Jane Robinson (Kelly)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 May 17 14:37 BST (UK) »
Same family 1871

Kendal, Westmorland, all born Westmorland

John   Robinson   Head    45, lab, Preston Patrick
Sarah   Robinson   Wife   44, Hutton Roof
Mathew   Robinson   Son   Male   12, burton   
Thomas   Robinson   Son   Male   10   "   
Henry   Robinson   Son   Male   7   "   
Christopher Robinson   Son   Male   6   "   
Agnes A   Robinson   Daughter Female 4 "
Charles   Robinson   Son Male   0   "

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall