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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 March 09 17:11 GMT (UK) »
wow-that is AMAZING! Thank you so very very much :) i have PM'd you with my details and i look forward to reading them-this is all amazing!

Thank you.
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 March 09 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clare,

have PMed you, but just to whet your appetite:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,366085.msg2418190.html#msg2418190

No, not for Otto, but a Charles Kneller  :)

Bob

Update:
If we are talking about the same Otto Kneller here, then Charles (Karl Christian) was Otto's brother.
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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 08 March 09 10:01 GMT (UK) »
ohhhh that's very exciting!!!! i know that 'my' Otto came over to the UK with his brother and had other family here...Wigan and Liverpool... SO it's all adding up that it could well be Ottos brother Charles...

I am so excited, i'm not going to be able to sleep until i have the letters in my hand :D
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 08 March 09 10:27 GMT (UK) »
The plot thickens...i have had an email from a British relative who states Otto Died in Dusseldorf...considering when in the 50s he was in Scorndorf and would of been in his 70s then.

How far is Dusseldorf from Scorndorf?

Also 'legend' (i'm a bit sceptical) has it a Dusseldorf newspaper ran a small obituary when he died in 1969 aged 99 because 'he had never worn glasses' ????

is there anyway i could find this article, if it was to exist?

thanks AGAIN :)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)


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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 08 March 09 10:40 GMT (UK) »
back again  ::)

I was wondering is Kneller a particularly common name?

ALSO i've found Charles Kneller on a few census's AND he to was a pork butcher! This was also my Ottos trade!!!

so you can guess what me next question is going to be????

Was a pork butcher a common German trade? I mean to have several Knellers in the UK all listed as Pork Butchers...i've found about 4 so far!

ALSO why is Otto not on ANY census bar the 1911 when he was with my gr gr nan? All i have ever found was his one Marriage certificate to Laura Mallett in Barrow in Furness in October 1892...and then NOTHING...it's like he vanishes???

On the 1901 census Laura Mallett is down as single? So was a divorce likely? I'm very confused and frustrated that he can't be found anywhere...
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:04 GMT (UK) »
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I was wondering is Kneller a particularly common name?
This question is often asked, for various names, so I've given a few links here:

Topic: Germany: Distribution and frequency of surnames
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,366583.0.html

According to one of the links, there are about 225 entries in the phone books and therefore approx. 565 persons with the name Kneller (but don't ask me what they base that on)

Bob
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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:09 GMT (UK) »
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Was a pork butcher a common German trade? I mean to have several Knellers in the UK all listed as Pork Butchers...i've found about 4 so far!

Just go into any german supermarket and look at the meats section !!
You want some ham  ? which one ?  we have .........
You want some sausage ? which one ?  we have .........

They have about 5000 ways of serving up pork (or so it seems), so yes, it is/was quite a common trade  ;D
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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:27 GMT (UK) »
 ;D i see, i thought it was a common trade in Germany but how come the UK had so many of them actually employed doing that.

i wondered what is a Bürgermeister? I found this written next to one of my ancestors.

On digging on the census's i've also found another Charles Kneller b1858 who was a roman catholic priest visiting another Priest in Prescot on the 1891 census. This is interesting...i wonder whether this fellow may be in my line as well?!

I wondered whether the Otto on the letters you have there has many siblings? i got told that he was one of 16+ children? this might/or might not be an exageration.

if so the fact i am finding so many Knellers who seem to be in the same trade coming from the same area and then moving to the UK might not be so unrealistic that they are siblings or cousins.

Everytime i hear of someone i seem to find my family is 3 times as big as intially thought and how exciting it is.

I have never been abroad but i have decided i will do a little 'tour' of the hohenlohekreis area,Schorndorf and Dusseldorf soon...i want to see where he grew up and things.

I am very proud of my German heritage.
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)

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Re: Germany: KNELLER
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:29 GMT (UK) »
 :o :o please excuse my spelling on that post it is horrific, i was rushing ::)
Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up :)