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aghadowey
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The LDS have just added this fantastic resource to their pilot site- Ireland civil registration indexes 1845-1958:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347
The site lists coverage and it is worth reading carefully but briefly it should cover the following:
Births 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland births after 1921 will not be listed here)
Deaths 1864-1921 for all Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland deaths after 1921 will not be listed here)
Marriages 1845-1864 (only non Catholic marriages- this usually includes Registry Office marriages)
1864-1921 all marriages in Ireland
1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland marriages will not be listed here)
As some of you that have tried using the site will know, it can be difficult to get the searches to bring up all the results (remember this is a pilot site and there may hopefully be improvements). Therefore, I am starting this thread to list suggestions for using the site to get the best results.
Suggestions only please here. Requests for specific information will be moved to other threads.
The site has been mentioned already on several threads:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,327925.30/topicseen.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,356222.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355958.new#new
And some hints here already:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355762.30.html
Happy searching, aghadowey
Registrar's districts NEW
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aghadowey
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From a previous topic I've extracted some hints and information:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355762.30.html
"the search on place seems to be based on the Registration District - e.g. part of Wicklow, and South Co. Dublin is district of Rathdown, this works for me in the place name search.
The registration districts are equivalent to the Poor Law Unions (PLU) which are included in SeanRuad's townland database at www.seanruad.com
there's a map of these districts here : http://www.rootschat.com/links/05d7/
and a list here : http://www.genfindit.com/irlplu.htm "
-from shanew147
In most databases doing the broadest search with just the name should give the most results and then narrowing down the search criteria with a place should give fewer results but this doesn't seem to be the case here.
Marriages are listed as Residences under Event Types.
"Never choose "New search" always choose "refine search",even if you're changing everything - seems to work for me"
-from eadaoin
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chrispaton
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The LDS have just added this fantastic resource to their pilot site- Ireland civil registration indexes 1845-1958: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347The site lists coverage and it is worth reading carefully but briefly it should cover the following: Births 1864-1921 for all Ireland 1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland births after 1921 will not be listed here) Deaths 1864-1921 for all Ireland 1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland deaths after 1921 will not be listed here) Marriages 1845-1864 (only non Catholic marriages- this usually includes Registry Office marriages) 1864-1921 all marriages in Ireland 1922-1958 for Republic of Ireland (Northern Ireland marriages will not be listed here)
Unfortunately it does not appear to be as clear cut as this. I've done a search on the name Watton, and just found two birth entries from Coleraine, Co. Derry in 1937 (i.e. Northern Ireland). I've been in touch with the public relations manager of FS, who has forwarded my request for specific information on the collection as released, and will provide an update if I get one - I've been told it will be at least tomorrow before I get a reply.
Chris
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Taidquest
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Hi Aghadowey thanks for this new suggestions topic,
I'm sure we will all benefit from each others experiences.
I also promise not to mention names from my searches to
illustrate a point. 
some things I have noted whilst searching.
the earliest I've seen maiden name of mother is on a 1928 birth.
on double barrelled names,try one given name and the first surname
in the field for first name and the second surname in the usual field,
this has brought up additional results in my searches.
Anne
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Owens,William & Bridget nee connolly ( a.k.a. sarah ann.Mary) children William b. 1875,John,b1886,Thomas b.1878,Elizabeth b.?family may have welsh connections.will junior married 1896.Four other children born but died before 1911. Mooney,McGrath,Owens,Dublin. Connolly,Dublin.mcdonald. Kavanagh,Liverpool,Smyth, O'Brien.Dublin. Coates/Kelly,midlands & Dublin . Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Bhoy
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Technical question:
The site uses Flash to display results. I'd like to copy & paste from search results in order to study them & cross-match. However, I can't seem to do this. Is this just a browser setting or does Flash not allow this?
TIA
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Taidquest
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when you click into one particular result you
will see "copy to clipboard" by clicking this and
then ok in the box that comes up you can then
right click and paste into a document on your
computer,even an open blank email that you
have minimised.very handy.
Anne
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Owens,William & Bridget nee connolly ( a.k.a. sarah ann.Mary) children William b. 1875,John,b1886,Thomas b.1878,Elizabeth b.?family may have welsh connections.will junior married 1896.Four other children born but died before 1911. Mooney,McGrath,Owens,Dublin. Connolly,Dublin.mcdonald. Kavanagh,Liverpool,Smyth, O'Brien.Dublin. Coates/Kelly,midlands & Dublin . Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Bhoy
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Doh!
Thanks for helping. And it's a great feature, so credit to the designers as well.
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Marc McNamara
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If you are searching for a Mc surname, you have to search under McXXX, Mc XXX (ie. with a space) and M'XXX (with an aprostrophe) to get matches for various dates. Still there is a gap in the 1930s so there may be yet another format there.
I have found that omitting the Mc returns all (?) variations - works on McNamara pretty well.
Marc
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K.C.
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Hi
Had a look at this pilot site and sent the link to so many people! - very interesting. Are the index numbers for look up of the actual documents at the General Reg Office in Belfast and Dublin??
Kathy
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shanew147
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Hi
Had a look at this pilot site and sent the link to so many people! - very interesting. Are the index numbers for look up of the actual documents at the General Reg Office in Belfast and Dublin??
Kathy
yes.
the details on the pilot site are basically a transcription of the Index books, which are available in the GRO research rooms. These are split by year/quarter and contain the same details - name, registration district, volume & page. To order a cert from these you give these details to the staff there, and they locate the details in the registration volumes - photocopy the details and you get your cert. If you order using the index details from the familysearch pilot site, the GRO use the same process to find the register details.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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