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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 February 09 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Here are Donald & John in 1881.
A different family.

Clachglass, Fortingall, Kinloch Rannoch, Perthshire
STEWART
John 56, Shepherd, b Fortingall G
Christian 41, b Fortingall G
Donald 6, b Fortingall G
John 6, b Fortingall G
James 1, b Dull G

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 February 09 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Very different from the ones that DDJ has found who fit with what Suz has said before:




1851 ...
Charles 8 b. Little Dunkeld
Christian 6 b. Little Dunkeld
William 4 b. Little Dunkeld
Catherine 2 b. Little Dunkeld
1861 ...
Isabella 9  b. Little Dunkeld
John  6  b. Little Dunkeld
Grand-daughter Catherine 1 b. Auchtergaven
(John Stewart Snr.'s Brother Alexander 53 Unmarried  b. Little Dunkeld)

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Great work Gadget .....
It was probably written by the Registrar as SCRIMIGEOR  ....
With a 1950s' spelling, an Ann Scrimgeour was a pal of mine at school in Stirling.
PRONOUNCED 'scrimidger' in Scotland.
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps both or either of John STEWART & Christian/Christina (STEWART) STEWART might have died between 1881 and 1891.

There's a John in 1891 of the right age and birthplace as a father-in-law but he's a retired ferryman - whereas "our" John was a Gardener/Market Gardener.

There's a Christina of the right birthplace though a bit young in 1891 as follows:
Lude House, Blair Atholl, Perth
Household of William MCINROY, Landed Proprietor
Christina STEWART, 72, Servant, Cook, b Dull Perthshire

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PS: This Christina is still there in 1901 - and age (87) is a better fit.  She's now a Retired Domestic Cook.  


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Great work Gadget .....
It was probably written by the Registrar as SCRIMIGEOR  ....
With a 1950s' spelling, an Ann Scrimgeour was a pal of mine at school in Stirling.
PRONOUNCED 'scrimidger' in Scotland.
Aye
DDJ

That's what threw me, DDJ - I've only ever heard it spoken and it always came out as Scrimidger  ;D

Suz - PM me your e-mail and I'll send the cert.


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #14 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Scrimgeour is definitely a Logierait name where Christina was born, next to Dull Parish.
e.g.
Death in 1876 SCRIMGEOUR CHRISTINA   MUNRO F 78 LOGIERAIT /PERTH

Useful corroborative evidence !

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #15 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Looks pretty good  :)

Can't find a baptism but that's not all that unusual.

So far I've only found two baptisms for children of  Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimgeour. Both Logierait  (I pass there on the A9  :) )

17 Sept 1820 Catherine
12 Aug 1823 Charles

We really need a stroll through the parish on the 1841. I think you can do it with Freecen.


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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #16 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:48 GMT (UK) »
I am puzzled why SCRIMGEOUR has been brought into the equation when the person we are looking for married John STEWART in 1838 as (I believe) Christian STEWART, and her name was given as Christian STEWART at the births of all her children in Little Dunkeld - Charles b 1842, Christian b 1844 (submitted), William b 1846 (submitted), Catherine b 1849 (submitted), Bell b 1851, John b 1855.

There's an Elizth. b 1844 Blair Athol to parents of the same names but ...

Anyway, getting the 1855 (a wonderful 1855 certificate!) record for John would seem to be worthwhile.

But I still wonder, Suz, how you worked back to this family i.e. are you sure you have the right family?

High time I went to bed!

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Re: Christian Stewart, Little Dunkeld, Perth
« Reply #17 on: Monday 23 February 09 14:50 GMT (UK) »
I think you've misssed a few of the messages, JAP.

Suz was looking for the death of the said Christian Stewart who married John Stewart in 1838 so that she could work out who her parents were.  We have ascertained that the likely parents are Charles Stewart and Christian Scrimgeor. From the censuses Christian was born circa 1815, Logirait or Dull.

DDJ has listed the children from the censuses in the quote I gave a couple of messages or so back (Reply#13) .



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