Nettle family of Taibach - anyone have any info, please?

[Costumier]

I am trying to trace the family of my grandfather Frederick Nettle, born Taibach 8 Feb 1900. Any help would be most appreciated! Thanks,
Costumier.

[osprey]

What sort of info are you looking for? Do you have them on the census? Are you trying to work further back or forward?

In case you don't have them in 1901, this could be them

27 Cotton Row, Hafod y Porth, Margam RG13/5052 folio 99 pg 23
William Nettle head mar 34 pickler of brass tubes
Bessie wife 31 b. North Devon, Kingsnympton
Elizabeth Ann dau 7
William John son 6
Mary Olive dau 4
Catherine dau 3
Frederick son 1
all born Taibach unless otherwise stated

birth reg
Fredererick Nettle march qtr 1900 vol 11a pg 875

marriage reg
William Nettle sept qtr 1893 Neath vol 11a pg 1058 with Bessie Hunt on the same page

If you don't already have them, it would be a good idea to get the birth & marriage certificates. There are a couple of William Nettles born Taibach around the right time and so easy to follow to the wrong one. 

[Costumier]

Hi Osprey.
I think this might be the right family. I know there was an elder brother called William, who married and lived in Weston super Mare in a house left him by a friend. His widow, called Elsie, left the house to my mother's elder sister. I have lots of pictures of Nettles, but no names written on the backs and therefore no names! Very frustrating!!! So, yes, I want to identify and trace the Nettles in both forwards and backwards directions, as much as possible... Costumier.

[osprey]

oops, noticed I left out a letter from William's occupation, now corrected.

Well, I can follow Bessie's family

1871 Tongue Lake, Kingsnympton, Devon RG10/2179 folio 39 pg 5
John Heywood head mar 21 labourer b. Chulmleigh
Eliza wife 24 b. Kingsnympton
Bessie Hunt dau-in-law 1 b. Kingsnympton

I would think that daughter-in-law here means step-daughter and it's possible that John isn't her father
birth reg Bessie Hunt dec qtr 1869 South Molton vol 5b pg 547
marriage reg Eliza Hunt sept 1870 South Molton vol 5b pg 747 with John Howard on the same page

1881 5 Upper Brick Row, Margam, Glam RG11/5334 folio 87 pg 49
John Heywood head mar 32 labourer at colliery b. Chulmleigh
Eliza wife 34 b. Kingsnympton
Bessie dau 11 b. Kingsnympton
Louisa dau 10 b. Kingsnympton
Ann dau 8 b. Taibach
Caroline dau 6 b. Taibach
John son 3 b. Taibach
Emma dau 1 b. Kingsnympton

1891 7 West End Lower, Taibach RG12/4457 folio 46 pg 38
John Haywood head mar 41 labourer general
Eliza wife 43 b. Kingsnympton
Bessie dau 21 tinworks b. Kingsnympton
Louisa dau 19 tinworks b. Kingsnympton
Annie dau 17 tinworks b. Margam
Caroline dau 15 tinworks b. Margam
John son 13 tinworks b. Margam
Edith dau 5 b. Margam
Minnie dau 2 b. Margam

Eliza is a servant in Chumleigh in 1861 RG9/1485 folio 51 pg 19, but this looks like her in 1851

1851 Village, Kingsnympton HO107/1891 folio 397 pg 11
Robert Hunt head mar 39 ag lab
Ann wife 39 b. High Bickington
William son 16
Anne dau 11
Jane dau 9
Harriett dau 6
Eliza dau 3
Jane Hunt mother-in-law 79 pauper late labourer's wife b. Roseash
all born Kingsnympton unless otherwise stated.
Kingsnympton isn't on the IGI, so can't check parish records.

Certificates needed to confirm findings. Can't go forward from 1901 as 1911 for Glamorgan is not online as yet. Keep an eye on the Glamorgan board, there will be much celebration when it does arrive.

 

[osprey]

ok, I think this may be your William. The 'other' William Nettle is enumerated as a coal miner in 1891, but the marriage cert is needed to confirm father's name

1881 4 Dormetary, Taibach RG11/5334 folio 77 pgs 29-30
Margaret Nettle head widow 52 domestic b. Carmarthen, Llandilo
Elizabeth A dau 26 b. Margam
Catherine dau 21 charwoman b. Margam
Mary dau 19 b. Margam
William son 14 b.Margam
Charles son 11 b. Margam

1861 Lower Constant, Hafod y Porth RG9/4080 folio 88 pg 26
William Nettle head mar 44 coal pit overman b. Cornwall, St Agnes
Margaret wife 32 b. Carm, Llandilo
Johannah dau 20 b. St Agnes
Jane dau 9 b. Llanguick
Grace dau 7 b. Margam
Elizabeth A dau 6 b. Margam
Catherine dau 1 b. Margam

Age of Johannah and gap before Jane looks like an indicator of a second marriage, and here it is
William Nettle sept qtr 1852 Neath vol 11a pg 577 with Margaret Bowen on the same page
death reg
William Nettle aged 55 march qtr 1871 Neath vol 11a pg 352

In 1871, William is with his now married half-sister Johannah RG10/5423 folio 19 pg 11
Joanna Nettle sept qtr 1865 Neath vol 11a pg 64 with Jenkin Morgan the only other on the page

1851 Morriston, Llangyfelach HO107/2465 folio 319 pg 14
William Nettle head widower collier (?)
James son 14 coal miner
John son 12 coal miner
Johannah dau 9
mary dau 7
Harriet Ann dau 6
Mary Janey niece 18 house servant
all born Cornwall, St Agnes

1841 William is in St Agnes. HO107/149/3 folio 40 pg 4 available free online at FreeCen
http://www.freecen.org.uk/
There's a likely first marriage for William on the IGI for St Agnes batch M053061, and a possible baptism in 1817 C053061, but again, the certificate from his second marriage would give you details of his father. The first marriage from 1836 will not give father's details.

edit - correcting age

[Costumier]

Hello osprey - gosh! What a lot to take in and how complicated! This William certainly had enough children - enough to found a town! 
I wish I had any more information to help decide who  is who. I only have a photo of a grave which contains my grandparents (Frederick  Nettle b, 8/2/1900 and died 14/11/1963 in Southmeads Hopital, Bristol and Gladys Audrey, nee Nott born 1901 in Bristol and died 18/2/1966 in Fishponds Road, Bristol)) and her parents James Wallbridges Nott (b.1858 and died 2 Aug. 1925 in Bristol) and his wife Eliza Matilda Toogood ( b. 1858 and died 28 Feb 1939 in Bristol). That's it! Not very helpful I'm afraid...

[Faithen]

Hello I am not sure if this will help anyone but here goes anyway...
I am researching NEWELL family in Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne.
I have a listng for a Robert Newell B  December 1912 in Newcastle  Mothers name Nettle.
Cannot find marriage record for the said names so maybe unmarried mum?

Robert Newell is buried in the same Grave  @ West road cemetary as My Grandfather David Newell b 1903 Second wife Ethel Newell Nee Goldie Married 1946 ish.
Last Known Address 7, Hillhead Drive, West Denton, Newcastle upon Tyne.

I am unable to find connection to My Newells maybe not connected at all just same Surname, any help would be wonderful. Thanks

[Costumier]

Hello. All my Nettle relations are South Wales born and bred, except for my mother. There is, however, another Nettle familly (unrelated) which originates from the Liverpool area. Perhaps if you post your enquiry there you may find more information? Sorry not to be more helpful.

[osprey]

The only way a child could be registered to unmarried parents at this time was if the father registered the child. A more likely scenario is that of the mother having been married previously so there is no marriage between Newell & Nettle, it's between Newell & her married name. If you don't already have the birth cert, it would be a good idea to get it so you can see any previous names and you have the first names of the parents to work from.