William COLLIER convict from London

[ausnic]

Hi
I am trying to find the birth details & parents, brothers or sisters of
William Collier.
From his death certificate he was born approx 1807 in London, died in Sydney 27 Jul 1866. His father's name was John Collier, occupation Builder.
William Collier was convicted 3 Dec 1829 at the "Old Bailey" for stealing 2 books, sentenced to 7 years transportation. He arrived in Sydney on "Exmouth" July 1831. His occupation was "Harnessmaker" but he was out of work when convicted.
He married Sarah Russell in Nov 1837 and had the following children, John James, Charles Alexander, Isabella, Thomas, George, William Henry.
I have been trying to find his address when he was convicted to try and confirm some family details with the 1841 census. Can anyone help with where I could look?

[Meliora]

Hello,

Try this site, it may help

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18291203-45-punish243&div=t18291203-45#highlight

Meliora

[ausnic]

Thanks for your response.
The Old Bailey site has directed me to "Registers of convicts in the hulks" and "Registers of Prisoners in Newgate Prison, both at the National Archives. Maybe there is a copy of these at the Mitchell Library in Sydney? I'll check.

[johnrow64]

Know this is a pretty old thread, but I am researching William Collier & Sarah Russell. I believe they had another child, Mary Ann Collier in 1939. Her marriage record shows parents as William & Sarah A D D. I notice that Sarah did not get granted her freedom until 1840, so this may explain the lack of birth record. Wondering if you can shed any light. Also, newspaper notice of William's death listed him as a saddler, which would line up with Harnessmaker.

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
A possible set of parents for William.
William Henry collier s of John and Elizabeth 21.7.1808 born June 5th St George Hanover Square.
marriage there 21.12.1806
John Collier and Elizabeth Thompson
wit J Thompson and John Sharpe

Unfortunately there seem to be no other children and it's too early for a occupation on the baptism.
The paper coverage of the theft gives a location of Great Queen St London and an escape by Wild St,but nothing more for William.
There is a John Collier  around the corner at Carey st on the Westminster rate books but again no occupation.

I'd be looking a guild records for William

Ciderdrinker

[johnrow64]

Correction: Mary Ann Collier born 1839

[ausnic]

Hi
Mary Anne was born Mary Anne Yende (or Yendo) Russell on 18 Aug 1835 at the "Child Factory" in Parramatta NSW. This is before William & Sarah married.
Sarah Anne Duff Russell was a convict from Glasgow who arrived in Sydney June 1834 on vessel "Numa". I have viewed Mary Anne's actual christening record. "Yende" is visible but I think it was meant to be Fender, which is Sarah's mother's maiden name.

[ausnic]

Hi Ciderdrinker.
Thanks so much for your help with any lookup in London

[Everlasting]

I came across this, in case this would still be of interest..

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C15665282