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Spooner marriage look up
« on: Monday 23 February 09 04:40 GMT (UK) »
I seem to have exhausted marriage searches in Durham and so now turn to Northumberland.

Subjects are Ralph Spooner born about 1814 and Mary? born about 1817.

From the 1851 Census both were born in Percy Main although on two of the later Census's Ralph listed his birthplace as Willington & Howden Panns.

The oldest child listed on the 1841 Census was George brn. in Hetton, Durham about 1837.

I have searched through the George Bell Tynemouth marriage indexes between 1829 & 1837 with no luck. Would someone out there have an index for that resource so that they might check to see that I didn't miss it.

It was also suggested on my Durham post that I request help with a look up of the parish records for St. John.

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« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 February 09 05:11 GMT (UK) »
Oops, sorry folks.

The subject should read ' Spooner marriage look up'

LesB

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 February 09 11:39 GMT (UK) »


LesB... ".... exhausted marraige searches... "   

You've hardly started lol.

Although Percy Main lay within the boundaries , just, of Tynemouth Parish, Howden, Howden Pans and Willington all lay just on the other side of Tynemouth Parish boundary - in Wallsend Parish.

Hetton-le-Hole lay within Houghton le Spring Parish
Hetton Downs lay with same parish until 1832, then it was in Hetton le Hole Parish.
East Hetton was in Hetton St Helens
South Hetton was Easington Parish up to 1838, then in South Hetton Holy Trinity.


And that's only Anglican churches ! What if they were "non-comformists" ?

Do you have any church baptisms for Ralph/Mary's children ? ... indicating their religious denomination ?

Was Ralph a "sinker" before he as a " coal miner". Sinkers were specialists and very mobile. Dig a pit, then move on to dig another one and so on .

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 February 09 12:58 GMT (UK) »
There is quite a lot of information on this topic on the Durham thread http://www.rootschat.com/links/05nx/

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 February 09 16:34 GMT (UK) »
There's a family tree a well-known genealogical site which shows a Ralph Spooner, b 1814 Percy Main, d 1891 Houghton le Spring, married to a Mary Davison, b 1817 Percy Main.

I couldn't find a Ralph Spooner in the 1813 - 1827 marriage indexes for Durham or Northumberland but a Ralph SPOORS married a Mary Davison at Bishopwearmouth on 28 November 1835. Unfortunately, these church records aren't among the BTs available on FamilySearch so I haven't been able to check to see if 'Spoors' is a mistranscription.

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 February 09 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, that should have been the 1813 - 1837 marriage indexes!

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 February 09 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Wallsend parish baptism:  Ralph Spooner 8 Jan 1815 s/o Ralph and Mary

No other Spooner baptisms

There is a Mary Davison baptised in Wallsend 25 Apr 1819 d/o John and Dorothy

Baptisms Hetton le Hole St. Nicholas:
George Spooner 1 Mar 1837 s/o Ralph and Mary
Isabel Spooner 16 Dec 1838 d/o Ralph and Mary

Marriage Tynemouth Christ Church:  Ralph Spooner and Mary Hunter 11 Apr 1812.

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 03:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all for your prompt responces. I'm very pleased with the results to my query.

Janis-thanks for the Baptisms of George and Isabel. An Isabella is noted in both the 1841 & 1851 Census as the second child of Ralph & Mary, maybe it is she. At least her baptism in Dec 1838 sorta fits with her age of 2 noted in 1841 Census.

Kath- The suggestion that Spoors could have been mistaken for Spooner is very good. The year of marr. i.e. 1835, sits well with the baptism of George in Mar 1837. I will check out the Census for 1841 & 1851 to see if I can find a Ralph & Mary Spoors. (have to wait until I visit my local Family History Soc.) If I can't find them, then as you suggested perhaps it was a mistranscription. Does anyone else have a better suggestion?

Michael- last but not least. Thank you for your clear explanation of the Parishes surrounding Percy Main.
Your explanation of a sinker was interesting. If I have the correct Ralph (yet to be proved beyond a doubt) he seems to have stayed in the same general area. What a stinker if he had moved throughout England & possibly Wales. Perhaps my quest would have been sunk (excuse the puns) before it had begun.

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Re: Spooner marriage look up
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 11:03 GMT (UK) »


LesB,

Just snippets....

When I was tootling about censuses in Co Durham for the Percy Main-born Spooners, I came across other Spooners in south-east Northumberland... another Ralph and an Adam  !!

Sinker Trivia....

Paid better than regular mines, but just as and maybe more dangerous.

Several colliery villages had a row of houses called "Sinkers Row". This was usually name given to the first housing thrown up around the hole the sinkers were digging, to accommodate them. Then they vacated and moved on to next "sinking" and the first phase of incoming miners moved into that accommodation. Housing standard not posh !

Michael Dixon

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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
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Ontario, CANADA
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Census information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.