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messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Is there a way I can find someone by their occupation? Im afraid I have little to go on. Im trying to trace a John White and all the info I have is that on his son's wedding cert. in 1903 he named his father as John White deceased and his occupation as 'messenger at the House of Lords' I have no idea when or where he died except that his son Edward was born in St.Martins in the fields London
about 1868. I know this is a shot in the dark but I thought maybe there is records somewhere of employees at the house of lords. [ I have no idea what his job entailed perhaps he just ran around delivering bits of paper all day!] Anyway if anybody has any ideas if I can look this up somewhere I would be very grateful for any advice
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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:10 GMT (UK) »
I think the messengers in the House of Lords are employed by the Queen.  But I'm not certain.
Certainly the messengers in the House of Commons are employed by the Queen.

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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Perhaps you need to try to narrow down when he died by fining him on various census- 1901 would be the last possible if he was deceased by 1903.  Then if you have a clue checking out the freebmd would give you his death year and quarter.

Then, when I had that info on him,  I'd look at the House of Lords website to see if they have archives or a contact and ask if they have any info... can't hurt and you may score.
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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Antoinette,

Do you have Edward's birth certificate or any definite birthdate for him?

A search for a John WHITE, 'messenger', in 1881 produces just one (but no Edward with him) in St George, Hanover Sq.
John WHITE, messenger Carlton Club, 33, b Scotland with wife Jane, 32, also born Scotland.

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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: charlotteCH on Sunday 08 March 09 11:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Perhaps you need to try to narrow down when he died by fining him on various census- 1901 would be the last possible if he was deceased by 1903.  Then if you have a clue checking out the freebmd would give you his death year and quarter.

Then, when I had that info on him,  I'd look at the House of Lords website to see if they have archives or a contact and ask if they have any info... can't hurt and you may score.
No hide, no Christmas goodies ;D

charlotte
Thank you for your advice charlotte Im going to try this now
Antoinette

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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: silvery on Sunday 08 March 09 11:10 GMT (UK)
I think the messengers in the House of Lords are employed by the Queen.  But I'm not certain.
Certainly the messengers in the House of Commons are employed by the Queen.


[Thanks Silver
 I will check this out

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Re: messenger at the house of lords how do I find?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: JAP on Sunday 08 March 09 11:27 GMT (UK)
Do you have Edward's birth certificate or any definite birthdate for him?

A search for a John WHITE, 'messenger', in 1881 produces just one (but no Edward with him) in St George, Hanover Sq.
John WHITE, messenger Carlton Club, 33, b Scotland with wife Jane, 32, also born Scotland.

JAP
Hi Jap
It could be him because the family always said that they originated from Scotland! I will follow it up thanks for your help
Antoinette
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