Could this be the same JOHN SHAW from Darton? (born abt 1740-1747)

[hmserge]

Hi

I've recently been doing my family tree and came across a John Shaw born about 1747 Carr Green, Darton, Yorkshire, who I believe married someone called Hannah.  They lived in Darton.  One of their children was Martha born 1775.

Today I started my husband's tree again, and came across a John Shaw born about 1740 Darton, Yorkshire who married someone called Ann, they lived in Darton.  One of their children was Anne born 1776. 

Is it possible that this John Shaw could be the same John Shaw?  and if not could they be related in some way? 

I'm not sure what route to take next in finding more about both these couples, to clarify whether they were two separate couples.  I wonder whether Darton was a small village at that time too.

If anyone could help or advice me what to search next, this would be much appreciated. 

Thank you

 

[AnneMc]

I think it could be possible it is the same John Shaw. As I have a few Hannah's that sometimes are recorded as Ann. I would think Darton would have been a small village.. In fact my grandmother was born at Carr Green in 1901.

Anne

[hmserge]

Hi Anne,

Thank you for your reply. 

I wonder what I could search next to find out if it is the same John Shaw?  I know Shaw is a common name, so it might even be possible that they were cousin's or something.

[AnneMc]

Hi:

Is there any chance you can have a look at the parish records as that should be able to tell you if there is two John  Shaw's. If you live close to a family history center you can order in the parish records for Darton.  If you don;t know the closest center go on the site familysearch.org and you can do a look up. 

Anne

[hmserge]

Hi Anne and thanks for your reply.

I'm not sure where my nearest family history centre is, but I can try find out. 

In the meantime I have searched on the familysearch.org.  There is one John Shaw who was christened in Darton on the 25 June 1747, but I cannot see one for 1740.  I know that sometimes children were christened at all ages, I wonder if it is the same John Shaw. 

I have now found children for John Shaw and Hannah Ellis, but there is no Anne mentioned, although Anne's date of birth is about 1766 and the first child mentioned for John and Hannah is 1770.  I wonder if John Shaw remarried (his first wife being Anne and second wife Hannah). 

I've been told that Darton was probably a small village at that time.

Confusing 

[betton39]

i have found this......

John Shaw
Son of joseph shaw and Elizabeth formerly Broadhead
Bapt: 25th June 1747 Car Green Darton
Died:  1807 Darton  occ:Farmer

Marr: 9th August 1770  Car Green Darton Barnsley

Hannah Ellis
Daughter of Robert and Alice
Bapt: 9th November 1746 Silkstone

Children
Mary   1770
George 1771 - 1774
Sarah 1772 - 1796
George 1774                     all Born Darton
Martha  1775
William 1781

Hope this helps 

[betton39]

sorry forgot to say - didn't come across another Ann in my travells - only Hannah with the "H's" dropped
As far as i kow when this marriage took place he was a Batchelor - most probably the same person, havent find any evidence myself to say otherwise

[hmserge]

Hi betton39

Thank you for your reply.

You did well to find this information as there is quite alot there.  I had no idea he was a farmer so that information is great 

Thanks for letting me know that you didn't come across any Ann's.

The only thing that puzzles me now is that John Shaw and 'Ann' had a daughter called Anne born about 1766, and I can't find a record for Anne being a daughter of John Shaw and Hannah Ellis, but yet when Anne married she named her daughter Martha, which was a popular family on the John Shaw and Hannah Ellis line.   

Thanks again

Heidi

[betton39]

Good Morning Heidi

i am related to Sarah
Sarah Married Thomas Mellor