Rowland family of Churton by Aldford

[Dalavon]

Hello,
I have just found this web site, and am hoping that someone may be able to help me trace details on  my father-in-laws mum & dad.
My father in law was Percy Rowland b1920, and he never knew his parents as he was brought up, supposedly, by his grandparents.
From Percy's birth certificate, his father was Arthur Rowland and his mother was Florence Emily Dutton, and the wording on the birth cert implied that they were married.
We know, from other family members that there is some connection to Frederick Rowland, b1849 - Carden, Cheshire, who was married to Mary Gibson, b1851 - Rossett, Denbighshire, and were living in Churton by Aldford when Percy was born, and Percy also lived in Churton by Aldford when he was a child.
I cannot find a marriage record for Arthur & Florence Emily, Percy's parents, so don't have any details on Florence Emily either.
Another problem is that according to census records, Frederick & Mary Rowland had a son called Arthur b abt 1886 in Churton by Aldford, and they also had a grandson called Arthur (parents unknown), b abt 1899, and whilst I am almost sure that one of these two Arthurs is Percy's father, i am at a dead end trying to trace any firm evidence, and don't know where to go from here.
I have trees on both Ancestry & GenesReunited, and whilst I can find people who have the two Arthurs in their trees, they do not have wives or children listed for them.
I know this is a lot of info to take in, but I am really hoping that someone out there may have some clues.
Many thanks,
Dalavon.

[wendy47]

Hi

I did find the following birth

Births Mar 1893
Dutton    Florence Emily    Wrexham    11b    277

Here she is in 1901
1901 Census for 5 Walnut Cottage, Stansty, Denbighshire

Edward Dutton     39 Head Joiner
Elizth Dutton    29 Wife b Moss
Edith M Dutton 9 Dau
Florence E Dutton 7 Dau
Fred Dutton    6 Son
Jame Dutton    5 [Jennie] Dau
Mary M Williams 5 Dau b Moss

All others b Wrexham
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5223; Folio: 56; Page: 13.

I don't know how this helps you discover which Arthur was the father though.

If it is her, and there aren't many Florence Emily's in freebmd you have her parents.

Didn't Mary Gibson come from Denbighshire?
Wendy

[garstonite]

Hi Davalon...I have PM`d you...and it looks like you and Scouserlad are researching the same ancestors.....thats lucky for you both...allan

[Dalavon]

Many thanks for the replies from Wendy47 & garsonite.

Wendy, I had already found the details you came up with for Florence as i have access to census records, but as we know absolutely nothing about Florence other than her name, her link to Arthur Rowland and my father in law Percy, I don't know if this is the correct person. We don't even know where in the country she came from. We have been told by someone that they thought she was a servant, but that is all.

Garsonite, thanks for all your info, I had already found the web site you mentioned, but didn't really understand the parishes, so it was a bit of a puzzle. it is full of useful info, but doesn't contain records late enough to show the two Arthurs.

I suppose what I am really hoping for (and I know its a long shot) is that someone out there can link an Arthur Rowland from Churton with a Florence Emily Dutton, and that way, I might find what I'm looking for.

Regards,
Dalavon.

[Barby7]

Hi Dalavon

Did you ever sort out the mystery regarding Percy`s parents?They are sort of connected to my husband`s tree & also to a friend that I helped with her tree.

I was in Holt cemetery recently.Are Percy`s ashes there?Have photo,if you require it.Still trying to see if any of the ROWLAND gravestones are connected to my husband`s family.

Best Wishes
Kate

[trish1120]

Hi Kate,
Dalavon hasnt been on Rootschat since 2010.

Allan (garsonite) should get notified of this posting of yours and he may still have contact with Scouserlad who is also interested in this Family..

I can tell that the 1911 Census has a Florence Dutton born c 1893 Denbighshire, living in Cheshire (Occp Servant)

[Barby7]

Hi Trish

Thanks for your reply.I don`t get to go on Rootschat very often either.

Very cute baby you have there

Best Wishes
Kate

[wilcoxon]

 Quote from Wendy
I did find the following birth
Births Mar 1893
Dutton    Florence Emily    Wrexham    11b    277
Here she is in 1901
1901 Census for 5 Walnut Cottage, Stansty, Denbighshire

Edward Dutton     39 Head Joiner
Elizth Dutton    29 Wife b Moss
Edith M Dutton 9 Dau
Florence E Dutton 7 Dau
Fred Dutton    6 Son
Jame Dutton    5 [Jennie] Dau
Mary M Williams 5 Dau b Moss

http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3805014/ART75/edward%20dutton
Death. Feb 13 1899.
Dutton-
February 13, at Walnut Cottages, Rhosddu  Wrexham, Emily, wife of Edward Dutton, aged 37 years.

I wonder if this is Florence Emily`s mother. Edward may have remarried - possibly to Elizabeth who may have been Williams

[wilcoxon]

North Wales BMD
1900 St Giles Wrexham.
Edward Dutton / Elizabeth Williams.