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HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« on: Sunday 05 April 09 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

I am trying to trace information on Hiram Ayres born around 1890 (don't know where.
He married Annie Miley in Croydon in 1916.

First world war records show him living at 29 Queens road Mitcham and he is a flower seller.
They have 3 children.
Maria Born 1908.
Sally (might be Billy?) Born 1910.
Vertina Born 1918.

Help please,

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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 April 09 23:37 BST (UK) »
They also had another son

Births December qtr 1916 
 
Hiram Ayres  mothers maiden name  Miley  Croydon  2a 573

Were the first 2 children from a previous marriage or were they Annie's and they only married in 1916
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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 April 09 23:43 BST (UK) »
If you check freebmd by putting in surname Ayres and mothers maiden name Miley you will find 12 entries between 1916-1930 all in Croydon

However - some could be from a different family as the entries show 2 births in the same year and only 3-6months apart
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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 April 09 23:45 BST (UK) »
Hello Carol

Yes I see that, but it can get confusing because there is another ayres marriage where the wife may be Annie's sister.

1904 Henry or William to Maria Miley.

If you do a search on all Ayres children born in Croydon, Mothers name Miley, it is a big list.

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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 April 09 23:54 BST (UK) »
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I am trying to trace information on Hiram Ayres born around 1890 (don't know where.


According to page 3835 of his WW1 record - he was b Bell Green Penge 8.5.1889 - 1886 has been crossed out
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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 April 09 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,

I can only assume that the first 2 children were born before they married. The name Maria could be after her sister! Not sure where the name Sally came from!!

Maria's  (also recorded as Mariah) mother was called Moretta or Murilla, I have not been able to work out her maiden name.

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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 April 09 00:18 BST (UK) »
Did you see my reply above re: place of birth
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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 April 09 00:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,

yes, I saw that. I have checked free bmd for both years free bmd and cannot see anything registered.
I also ran the check without the last name because of the funny spellings of Ayres and still no luck.

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Re: HIRAM AYRES lived in Mitcham
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 09 00:35 BST (UK) »
There is a Hiram Eyre but he was born in Derbyshire and father was a coalminer.  If this was a travelling family - the birth may not have been registered.  I can't find an 1891/1901 entry that matches

A copy of his marriage cert will (hopefully) show a fathers name

You could order it with a condition attached that you only want it if a father is shown for Hiram.

If none is shown - the GRO will only charge you a £3 search fee
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