Bishopstone Near Shrivenham

[hiraeth]

I have made a BIG mistake. I apologise

I must have had a mental bloc. I am transcribing Potterne not Bishopstone

John

Glad I'm not the only one who gets confused

Hi Heather

Looking at St Mary the Virgin, Bishopstone PR's (nr Shrivenham)

Swinerton Thatcher bap 27 Dec 1741 s/o John & Margaret. Born 25 Dec

Margaret Thatcher w/o John buried 1 Feb 1749/50 (prior to 1752 calender year went from 25 Mar to 24 Mar following year)

John Thatcher buried 11 Jun 1748
For his bap try 20 Feb 1697/98 s/o Edward

Sorry can't help on marr details

regards

John

Thank you soooooo much    I didn't have the burials and that is a wonderful help.

You have totally redeemed yourself  

Heather

[hiraeth]

John,  if I may, one more question

Is it common on your area to note in the PRs if the burial is for a child of say 10 years?

The reason I ask is that John & Margaret Swinerton Thatcher also baptized a son John Feb 4, 1737/8.   They also baptized twins Joseph & Benjamin Nov 26, 1749,  which fits in for a death for the mother Margaret in Feb 1749/50.   

But if the burial Jun 11, 1748 was for John Thatcher Senior ??    What do you think

Heather

[John in Fram]

Hi Heather

So far, I have only seen the PR's saying "infant" or "s/o" (what the age cut off between infant and son I do not know - but would like to know ?)

Looking at Bishopstone PR's ...

Bap's

John s/o Edward 9 Feb 1644/5
John s/o Edward 8 Jul 1663
Jonathan s/o John 24 Dec 1682
John s/o Edward 20 Feb 1697/8
John s/o John & Margaret 5 Feb 1737/8, b 4 Jan
John s/o James & Martha 3 Dec 1738, b 28 Nov
John s/o Edward & Eliz 24 Sep 1744
Sarah s/o John & Margaret 15 Jul 1744, b 12 Jul
John s/o Edward & Eliz 23 Jan  1747/8
John s/o Edward & Eliz 6 May 1761 (twin)
Susannah d/o Edward & Eliz 6 May 1761 (twin)
Thomas s/o John & Margaret Nov 1746
Joseph s/o John & Margaret 26 Nov 1749
Benjamin s/o John & Margaret 26 Nov 1749

Bur's

John s/o Edward 7 Oct 1744
John 11 Jun 1748
Margaret w/o John1 Feb 1749/50
Benjamin 30 Dec 1750
Joseph 4 Apr 1751
John s/o Edward & Eliz 5 Jan 1752, Inf
John 12 Jun 1761, inf twin
Susannah 12 Jun 1761, inf twin
Sarah 7 Jan 1770
Thomas 20 Feb 1770
John 19 Feb 1771

It is quite possible that John Snr (h/o Margaret) was buried 11 Jun 1748, because the Margaret entry shows she was the "wife of" and not a "widow"

It was also quite possible that John's father was Edward, therefore he was possibly bap 1697/8

I hope this helps you in your research

regards

John

[hiraeth]

Hi Heather

So far, I have only seen the PR's saying "infant" or "s/o" (what the age cut off between infant and son I do not know - but would like to know ?)

I hope this helps you in your research

regards

John

Hi John

Thenk you VERY much for taking the time to type all those B/Bs out for me.    It sounds like the same system of recording was consistent with those I'm familiar with in researching PRs in North Wales. 

I can't recall where I read it, but my understanding is that an "infant" was a small child.  Possibly one that could be carried up to the age of 2 or 3.  Then "child" referred to one dependant on parents, probably to early teens.  The entries would also reflect the diligence applied by the individual church official    Others here on RC may have more knowledge or a specific reference to a church policy?

Many thanks again.
Heather

[historyman]

Hi Heather
I have a Frances Thatcher born Egham, SurreyChristening 16 Feb 1806
THORPE,SURREY
Birth Date   19 Jan 1806
Father John Thatcher
Mother Margaret
Thanks to Rootschat.Referring to Rootsweb World Connect there is the Tree of Richard A Platt which has the family of John and Margaret [Crockford] he traces back to the Swinnerton connection
Regards
historyman