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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:13 BST (UK) »
Wow--thank-you for all this information!! I am getting quite exited here.
Karen, thank-you for the note on NFL--was it considered a British Colony then, or a "part" or province of Britain or Canada? Sorry for the ignorance-   I have another relative- completely unconnected --born in NFL, and she always put "British Citizen"  on the census, but born either NFL or Canada.
The Ernest of the letter gives a list of ships upon which he has served- I have only managed to "find" one of them, but it seems he was running between England-China-Japan-, at least pre-war. I suppose he could have sailed for New York after the war- but there is another Ernest Warren, born c 1875 in Kent who does appear on Ships, sailor's services etc--that may be him.
Thank-you all again, sooo much to look into now!!
Sally
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:19 BST (UK) »
oh and I also remember seeing an Ernest Edwin James Warren b 1868 or 1869, who crops up in some trees connected to USA families.. its very confusing---
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:26 BST (UK) »

Karen, thank-you for the note on NFL--was it considered a British Colony then, or a "part" or province of Britain or Canada? Sorry for the ignorance-   I have another relative- completely unconnected --born in NFL, and she always put "British Citizen"  on the census, but born either NFL or Canada.


It was considered a British Dominion and they were British Subjects prior to 1949

Newfoundland joined Confederation on 31 March 1949, having previously been a separate British dominion. Amendments were made to the Citizenship Act to confer Canadian citizenship on British subjects from Newfoundland from 1 April 1949 on broadly similar terms to those applying in the rest of Canada since 1947.


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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:29 BST (UK) »
Thank-you!! Sorry for for previous ignorance- unforgivable!
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore


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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:32 BST (UK) »
That's ok, not everyone knows that.   My gr aunt served in WW11, she would tell the story of how she was stationed "overseas" but only went to Newfoundland, oh she would laugh and laugh cause she technically never went over the sea to get there LOL

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:40 BST (UK) »
This might be Ernest:

Arrived in New York, 8 June 1919, SS Australind, sailed from London 5/24/19

Manifest of Aliens Employed on the Vessel as Crew

No card, Warren, Ernest E., supercargo, Shipped or Engaged – 5/20/19, London, age 50,  Whether to be paid off or discharged at port of arrival – No, race English, nationality British, height 5’ 9”, weight 200 lbs.


If this is the right chap then he also travelled in to the UK on board the Jervis Bay from Australia via the Suez Canal on 27 Sept 1924

His listing says that he boarded in Sydney and gives an address of the Commonwealth Bank of Aust. London aged 51 and a Master Mariner.
Under country of last permanent residence it says Australia and planned future residence England.

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:42 BST (UK) »
I liked the Ernest on the Australind because he was the supercargo - the officer in charge of the cargo.  Lot's of possibilities for smuggling or other scandal.

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http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/pdf/battye/pods/1900/0310.pdf

A description of the Australind in 1900.

“… steamer, with passenger accomadation, trade between Singapore and Freemantle, calling at all Ports on the North-West coast of Western Australia …”

Agents in London, Perth, Freemantle, etc.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
Yes! thank-you. After WW1 he could have resumed the old job on a different set of routes etc, eventually settling in Australia apon retirement from sea. The entry passenger lists 1924 is certainly him I think-  is there a way of finding passenger and crew lists into Australia,? I have never been sure whether my Ernest took Julia to Australia and left her there to make her own way home, or wether she was left in London--the family story varies on this- as it does on the general dates all this happened!
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WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 16:58 BST (UK) »
Google New Archive search brings up many references to the Austalind which ran routes from Australia to NY and to London.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis