PERRIN - missing from NZ

[Mackiwi]

Hoping to catch someone's eye.

Looking for John & Lettisia or Letitia Perrin married in NZ, possible crossed the ditch after 1912 as no deaths have been found here. They had a son George Edgar Perrin who  was born in NZ 1909 and would have been with them.
John's father passed away in 1913 and after loosing a son in 1912 they may have felt it was time to move on.

Also Richard Frederick Woodley Perrin sometimes known as Frank missing from 1917. First names may have been reversed as different documents have shown so far. He may have gone with or followed his father John for a new start.

Mackiwi

[sparrett]

Hi Mackiwi,

This man is a possibility in  WA.
Here is his marriage.

PERRIN    GEORGE E.  @ PERTH reg.130    yr 1933    to SARGENT, MARY M .

Interrment at Karrakatta,

George Edgar PERRIN. 27/10/1957 aged 55 of Mt Lawley sect AA gve. 0347.

 Mary Magaret PERRIN. 1/8/1998 aged 98 of West Leederville. Location as above.

The age would seem to be a bit out with the DOB you have given.

Sue.

This on bdm NSW

16379/1924  PERRIN,  LETTE  46 YRS REDFERN  @   REDFERN

Bit of a longshot, but worth the mention

Was LETTISIA ever called that for short?  Is the age about right?   

[regross]

Hi Mackwicki,

Douyouknow who John's parents were and what his wife's maiden name was?

This may assist in looking at death indexes etc.

regards

Robyn

[kiwihalfpint]

16379/1924  PERRIN,  LETTE  46 YRS REDFERN  @   REDFERN

Was LETTISIA ever called that for short?  Is the age about right?   

Don't know about Mackiwi's Lettisia, but my cousin was called Letitia and known as "Letty"

Cheers
KHP

[cando]

Sue this appears to be their marriage in NZ
1905/6156

PIPER Lettisia Agnes          
PERRIN John

I was attempting to find the above John's father's name in the hope that there was a 2nd given name.

Deaths
1913/10288   
PERRIN John    86 years

Only infant death I can see in the period.
1910/8537   
PERRIN   William Walter    3D

I am bit puzzled about Richard Frederick Woodley PERRIN following his father John as i understood from your post that father John died in 1913.  Were Richard F W PERRIN and John brothers?  Richard  had his wife Amelia had a child in 1908.

1908/20701   
PERRIN   Violet Agnes Constance    
Mother Amelia Constance Lilian   Father Frederick Richard Woodley


Marriage
1879/12
PERRIN John
PEARCE Agnes   

Children to Agnes and John PERRIN

1879/17947   Perrin    Edith Elizabeth Ann    Agnes   John   -   
1881/14479   Perrin    William James John    Agnes   John      
1883/7773   Perrin    Richard Frederick Woodley    Agnes   John   
1885/15163   Perrin    Mabel Mary Maria    Agnes   John

Death
1913/9203   PERRIN   William James John    32 years

Could this possibly be the death of your John husband of Lettisia?

Cheers
Cando

[sparrett]

Hi all,

I am bit puzzled about Richard Frederick Woodley PERRIN following his father John as i understood from your post that father John died in 1913. CANDO

The DOB's of the 2.....  Richard and George Edgar..... make it unlikely they were brothers.  I agree with you.

Uncle and nephew is a possiblility as yo suggest.

Sue

[Mackiwi]

Greetings to all my helpers 

The marriage and internment for George Edgar & Mary Margaret certainly look promising. Worth following up I think.

John's Parents were John Perrin  & Elizabeth Herd from Maldon England John Snr remarried after Elizabeth's death.

John Jnr born 1854  Woolwich England married Agnes Preece in 1879 and had the 4 children found by Cando. Richard is a child of this first marrige.John Jnr & Agnes were divorced in 1904.
 
John remarried to Lettisia Piper in 1905. I found a posting yesterday that has Lettisia's parents as George Piper & Rachel nee Hurrell.

George Edgar is not appearing in the births available yet which if he was born in 1909 the birth may not show up until August, perhaps the age at time of death was an error!!!

George Edgar's brother who died was Thomas Arthur Perrin was only 4 months old ans is buried in Christchurch. Died on the 2nd, buried on the 3rd Sep 1912.

So Richard Frederick Woodley Perrin is their half brother.

Sorry to say I don't know if Lettisia was ever called Letty but it was quite possible I guess amongst family & friends.

I hope I have sorted the confusion I caused and I do appreciate all your suggestions.

Mackiwi 

[cando]

I was confused


On the 1925 WA electoral roll George Edgar PERRIN is living with a George and Mary Jane PERRIN at the same address in Perth.  The are a number of George PERRIN enlistments in WA from 1901. George Edgar is on the 1936 with a Margaret Mary. 

and his birth

PERRIN     George Edgar        
Father George   Mother THOMAS Mary Jane    
District Perth     Reg#4573     1903


There is a 1936 electoral enrolment for a George Edgar PERRIN, Labourer,  living in NSW with a Nora Kathleen, HD at Picnic Point Rd Bankstown.

His marriage
7063/1933     
PERRIN   George   
APRILOVIC  Nora    
District Glebe

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

When browsing the marriages in NZ, I noticed a marriage for Frank's daughter born -

1908/20701   
PERRIN   Violet Agnes Constance   
Mother Amelia Constance Lilian   Father Frederick Richard Woodley

I think it was in 1928.  Wonder if he signed as a witness. 

Cheers
Cando