The life of a con man part 2

[jaywit]

Deb when you come online.
Whatever Julian Osbaldeston said about his date of birth if, and I am sure myself we are correct, he was the Julian Alexander Turner born in Birmingham then he was baptised on 21/1/1855. His sister Ann Maria baptised with him was born 1853.
 Now Mary Ann Turner was baptised 1816 that would make her approaching 40 when Julian was born so no problem there.
We need if possible to find out where  (and if) he qualified as a doctor.
 You said there was an obit. in an American Doctors publication? Does that give details of where he studied?
What I am trying to establish is as the only family member I can find on 1861 census is possibly Francis had the rest of the family already gone to the USA? I know Edwin was back by 1862 but where was he in 1861? Not fighting the Crimean war that had finished, I doubt in Turkry learning about the Turkish baths, so was he hiding somewhere in the UK or had he gone with Josiah, Mary Ann and the 2 youngest children to the USA and then returned soon after?

[jaywit]

  I might just have found Edwin in 1861, it needs a lot more work which I will do later on today, but if it is him he is using another alias, but he is in the Royal Navy.

[avm228]

What I am trying to establish is as the only family member I can find on 1861 census is possibly Francis

I also found a good candidate for Frederick "James" in 1861 on the other thread, at reply #60:

"The eldest son in 1851 is Frederick.  In 1861 he's a 28 yr old unmarried Book Carter b Birmingham, lodging with a Caroline Morrell (?) in Lady Wood, Birmingham: RG9/2129/66/37."

Anna

[jaywit]

Ooops Sorry I forgot you had found Frederick in 1861. It does look like the family had scattered by 1861, it's just where had they all gone to.

[jaywit]

I wonder if Frederick stuck with the surname James? There is this marriage in Birmingham in 1863.
 Frederick James
   
  Spouse:  EMMA BATES 
    09 NOV 1863   All Saints, Birmingham, Warwick, England
 
 

[Trees]

Hope this works

[jaywit]

I think we can discount that marriage I found, they are in Kenilworth and I can trace that Frederick James back to 1841 in Kenilworth ( Emma was living in Birmingham in 1861 which would explain the marriage there) So where did Frederick go after 1861? Another mystery.

Trees yes that tree is good

[jaywit]

Edwin in 1861, what I have found using the Christian name and place of birth is an Edwin BROOKS age 24 ( well 2 years out) in the Royal Navy serving on HMS Agamemnon which was on census night at Suda Bay Crete.
 Ref is RG9/4433/72/16.
 Next to Edwin's name as his occupation is ' 2 Cap Fore Top' I have put a thread on the armed forces board asking if anyone knows what that means.
At the moment I can't see him on any other census so I am thinking he is a possible for Edwin, he does at times mention the Royal Navy, saying he was in Malta, a possible stopping off point  for the Eastern Mediterranean and Turkey, well Crete isn't that far away from Turkey

[deeiluka]

My sister is not sure how far back the records held at Yatala Gaol in South Australia go, but she'll find out when she can. She only works 3 days a week, and won't be there again till Friday.........

I've been searching online and on disk for any sign of either ETO or Annie Pratt, but other than the birth in Victoria, I can't find anything.


Dee