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Lisa in California
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Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:40 UTC (UK) »

Jennie Stinson, age 20, born Ontario, was living with my ancestor, John Ovens, and his family in Toronto in 1881.

I would like to find out more information about Jennie.  Jennie may be related to John.  I have not found her on
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/ or
http://automatedgenealogy.com/

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 May 09 03:38 UTC (UK) »

If she was truly born Ontario, this will be a non-starter, but since you are looking for ideas...

Jane Stinson, age 13 shows in Quebec Home Children arrivals in 1875 (archivianet).

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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 May 09 04:23 UTC (UK) »

Hello

There is this possibility, a Jennie Stinson whom married Issac Laidley December 23, 1890 at Janetville. Both wife and husband born Manvers, Ontario. Her parents were Samuel and Jennie Stinson and his Thomas and Catherine Laidley. He was 32 a farmer, she 22. Religious denomination Methodist.

Give you her as a possibility as there is a discrepencies in birth dates.
1911 census Jane (Jennie) born October 1860:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=92929
1901 census Jennie October 16, 1870:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ProofFrame.jsp?id=48162

Janetville and Manvers 23.5 km apart, both in Kawartha Lakes area. Janetville 121 km from Toronto, while Manvers 106 km.

1871 Head of Household Census - Samuel Stinson in Manvers
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/1871-ontario/001016-130-e.html

In 1881 there is a William Ovens family of Irish descent found in Clarke, Durham West. Maybe the families knew each other. Both of Irish descent. Clarke and Manvers about 17 km distance.

In 1881 Samuel Stinson in Manvers is found as Steson. http://www.familysearch.org/
A Jennie is not with this family on the 1881 census, and could be the one with your John Ovens family. Samuel has wife Ann. Could this be a second wife, or also known as Jennie, or transciption error on Laidley-Stinson marriage. Would certainly need to see the full 1871 census; however, it is not indexed as of yet and only on microfilm to the best of my knowledge.

1891 census Durham East, Manvers
STINSON Samuel 54 married
STINSON {GRAHAM} Annie 48 married wife
STINSON Edith 15 daughter
STINSON Milley 13 daughter
STINSON Wilbart 9 son
GOSHLIN John 19
http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/9/o058c201.htm#100

1901 census in Lindsay (Samuel & Annie Stinson + family)
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ProofFrame.jsp?id=106007

1911 census back in Manvers (Samuel & Ann)
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=92930

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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 May 09 04:45 UTC (UK) »

Just an update.

Annie would be a second wife for Samuel. There is a marriage for Samuel Stinson widower aged 35, residence Manvers, place of birth Cavan. His parents listed as Samuel & Jane Stinson married Anne Graham age 28. Married November 12th, 1873, Ops, Victoria County, Ontario. Ops is Anne's residence and birthplace.

Samuel's first wife Jane died August 6th, 1872, age 33 years. Jane was born Amhearst Island. Samuel was the informant and listed as farmer, Manvers as well as Dr. Hamilton, Cavan. She died of Diabetes Millitus, duration 9 months.

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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 May 09 05:07 UTC (UK) »

There is also this Jane which looks like a very good match:

Jane Stinson parents James and Jane Stinson born Feb 16, 1860, baptised Dec 31, 1860 born Peterboro (Peterborough)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wjmartin/wm-s_143.htm

1871 Ontario Head of Household Census
STINSON, JAMES age 35, born Ireland, merchant, in town of Peterborough.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/1871-ontario/001016-100.01-e.php

A much better likelihood as year of birth matches for your Jane and her father James is a merchant as is your John Ovens. Maybe they did business together.

James Thompson Stinson, merchant born May 1838 Ireland, died March 28, 1910, 72 years 10 months, married, parents Robt. Stinson & Sarah Thompson, both born Ireland. Place of death 493 Reid St., Peterboro

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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 May 09 07:54 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much, Nick and Linda.  All findings are good possibilities, especially the last one.

John left Ireland prior to 1842.  He lived in America for several years (marrying Jane Wakefield in 1842) and finally settled in Toronto in the early 1850's.  He owned a fancy goods establishment for decades in Toronto.

I have been in touch with three Canadian Ovens descendants.  We believe our ancestors were related as they were from the same area of Ireland; all arrived in North America around the same time; two settling right away in Ontario, my ancestor settling several years later.

I believe John's parents were William Ovens and Elizabeth Stinson (both perhaps dying in Ireland).  I thought if I could find out who Jennie was, I might find proof of John's parents.  (I posted a thread inquiring if there is a way to confirm John's birth:)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,379680.0.html

Thank you again very much for all of your leads and time, it is very much appreciated.
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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 May 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

Your welcome Lisa

You might want to include a link on your other thread to this thread, so it is known which Jennie's have been located.

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Seems coincidental that a Stinson was living with the Ovens in 1881.  I cannot find Jennie Stinson after 1881 (or before).

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Re: Stinson, Jennie, born c1861, Toronto
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 May 09 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, Linda.  I didn't think of that (I sometimes overlook the obvious).  Wink
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