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Michie - 1851 census
« on: Wednesday 06 May 09 03:08 BST (UK) »
Help needed -

James Michie and Euphemia Izatt.
1851 census, found on Ancestry but a hopeless MESS  ???

Name as James McChee, can make out Euphemia, but as for the rest.  >:(

Any help..PLEASE.
regards patvp
Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
West Yorkshire - Allott, Riley, Charlesworth, Barker, Harper, Rubery, Darlison, Vaughan.

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 May 09 05:25 BST (UK) »
How is it a mess?
Snaddon (and variations... of which there appear to be many...)

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 May 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Your not kidding patvp!!

At Old Bridge Street, Alloa 1851

James McChee 41 
Enpb??A Zutt 44 
McChee 44 
  77 
  17 
  73 
  13 
  11 
??Z??Tt   4 
  6 
E??Pb??   4


Have you got the 1861 Version? Name at least spelt correctly!

At Old Bridge, Alloa

James Michie 59 
Euphemia Izatt 53 
Robert Michie 24 
Isall Michie 18 
Isabella Michie 16 
Euphemia Michie 15 


Have you tried looking at the actual images on SP?

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 May 09 02:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks Anne - Yes a bit of a mess isn't it, even the view others on the page is as big a mess..have not been game (as yet) to check the original, will do so when I can afford more credits on SP.
Thought it may have given me a lead as to his parents..
The Michie family are giving me real headaches  ::)
James and Euphemia are an indirect line, my direct is James Michie born around 1757 (have tis on another thread) cannot find his parents for love  nor money..cannot find his marriage to Charlotte Paterson nor his first born (I think) Ann about 1771, have all the other kids from this marriage !!!
It's a real puzzler..may sort it out eventually  :P
Regards Pat
Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
West Yorkshire - Allott, Riley, Charlesworth, Barker, Harper, Rubery, Darlison, Vaughan.

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 May 09 13:56 BST (UK) »
just had a quick look on SP for you - bad news - there is no image available. you have to order!!

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 March 10 02:08 GMT (UK) »
I believe James MICHIE and Euphemia IZATT are my GGG-Grandparents via their son James (1830-1917) who changed his name to McKAY for the 1861 census.
James McKAY was in the 1871 census as James MICHIE (a visitor in Glasgow) and emigrated to Christchurch New Zealand with his wife Annie MATHIESON about 1873, though I've yet to find the voyage.  Annie MICHIE and the kids are in the 1871 census living at  Greenfield Plce in Alloa: (only first name and surname in the census)

Name    Age
Ann Michie    35 (1836)
Mary Stevenson Michie    16 (1855)
Thomas Mathieson Michie    7 (1864)
Margaret Brown Michie    5 (1866)
Edith Mathieson Michie    2 (1869) my GG grandmother
Frances Margaret Raynor Michie 9 Mo (1870)

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 March 10 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Coincidence or what...decided to have another look at the Michie family this morning..so far have only got deat cert for James Mitchie, he died July 1863 Alloa Clacks. GRO465/00 0121, widower of Euphemia izatt.  Moulder by occupation, his son James is the witness (signed with his mark x) so assume James was illiterate ???
Wonder why he changed his name to McKay ???
Maybe because there were so many children  ::) tgo James and Euphemia ..I make it about thirteen..so am going to start checking them out..will let you know how I go.

All the best Patvp
Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
West Yorkshire - Allott, Riley, Charlesworth, Barker, Harper, Rubery, Darlison, Vaughan.

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 March 10 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Whoops - Parents of James (death cert) are listed as James Michie (furnace keeper) and Isabella Michie m.s Michie.  Cause of death - Palsy.

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Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
West Yorkshire - Allott, Riley, Charlesworth, Barker, Harper, Rubery, Darlison, Vaughan.

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Re: Michie - 1851 census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 02:30 GMT (UK) »
James Michie (1802) signed X on daughter Edith's birth record so I guess he didn't care whether it was spelt McKay or MICHIE.  I was just now checking out his siblings, such a lot of brothers and what a challenge to the Scottish naming pattern - mother's father, father's father, and father all named James.  Time to think up some new names!

James McKay nee Michie continued as an iron moulder in New Zealand.

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