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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 21:27 BST (UK) »
Nancy Tracy may be a red herring. It looks like her Caswell connection begins in the 1860s but she would certainly be worth finding. She may have something useful.

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Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 23:30 BST (UK) »
I will just add what I have on Caswell for you ... might help a little bit ... who knows.

NAME   Caswell, Douglas           
SN   397           
RANK    Private           
UNIT   30 Battalion           
HONOUR   Standard entitlements           
BORN   Powyke Worcestershire England           
OCCUPATION   Butcher           
RELIGION   Anglican           
               
DOE   16.07.1915 Liverpool NSW           
AGE   21           
               
               
STATUS   KIA           
DATE   20.07.1916           
AGE   22           
BURIED   Unknown
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 2
   AWM 116
   
DESCRIPTION   5 foot 8 with fair hair
   
NOTES   
   
   
NOK   Father: Eberron Caswell
died Newcastle NSW 1919 Reg No 7189
   
   Mother: Sophie M C Caswell daughter of Peter (Gateshead?)
   She died 1953 aged 87 Newcastle Reg No 29366
   Douglas Street North Stockton Newcastle NSW
Essex: PLAYLE, WHITEHEAD, PAWSEY, FARRAR, HYMUS
Cornwall: POND, DUNGEY, WILLIAMS
Kent: AUSTIN, ROSER, WILSON
Sussex: ROSER, WILSON

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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 23:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the details.

I'm trying to contact Mike Caswell who has been a significant centre of research into Caswells for many years.

I will post with more if he gets back to me.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 May 09 12:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul,

There is more info about Douglas Caswell at the initial thread which is at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,379339.0.html

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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 May 09 04:29 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Douglas CASWELL  Regimental number 397  Place of birth Worcester, England  Religion Church of England  Occupation Butcher Address Mitchell Street, Stockton, Newcastle, New South Wales
Marital status Single  Age at embarkation 21  Height 5' 8.5"  Weight 126 lbs  Next of kin Father, Eberon Caswell, Mitchell Street, Stockton, Newcastle, New South Wales  Previous military service Nil ('resided outside Military District')  Enlistment date 16 July 1915  Place of enlistment Liverpool, New South Wales
Rank on enlistment Private  Unit name 30th Battalion, B Company  AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/47/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A72 Beltana on 9 November 1915  Rank from Nominal Roll Private Unit from Nominal Roll 30th Battalion
Fate Killed in Action 20 July 1916  Place of burial No known grave  Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No 2), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France  Panel number, Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial 115  Other details War service: Egypt, Western Front Embarked Sydney, 9 November 1915; disembarked Suez, 11 December 1915. Admitted to 2nd Australian Stationary hospital, Tel el Kebir, 12 March 1916 (diptheria); discharged to unit, 23 March 1916. Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 16 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, 23 June 1916.
Missing, 20 July 1916. 'Identification Disc received from Germany. No particulars were afforded except that Soldier was deceased. May now be reported "KILLED IN ACTION" 20/7/16.'

Red Cross File No 710210 has statement from 792 Pte A.C. WALKER, 28 August 1916: 'I knew Caswell; his initial was D. He was in the original Bn. and he was in B.V. No. 1 Section. I saw him lying wounded in No Man's Land on 19.7.16 at Fleurbaix, between 8 and 9 p.m. This was in the 4th. wave and he and I were carrying ammunition. He was hit in the hip and leg and could not get up but rolled into a shell hole and had to be left. 2 of my mates and I went back to where we left him and although I am perfectly sure that we found the place where we had left him the shell hole was then filled in. I feel quite sure that he must have been killed and buried and not taken prisoner.'

Second statement, 2157 Pte C.F. SIMPSON (patient, Lakenham Hospital, Norwich, England), 3 January 1917: 'Informant states that on July 19th. 1916 at Fluerbaix (sic) he saw Caswell killed by Machine Gun, he does not think he was buried, he fell in No Man's Land.'

Red Cross File p. 12: copy of statement from Central Enquiry Office, Royal Prussian War Office: 'Identity disc [of CASWELL, D.] handed in by left property office Army Corps 6 on 12.10.16.'

The above name appeared on German death list dated 4-11-16.'

Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal  Sources NAA: B2455, CASWELL Douglas
Red Cross file 710210 

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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 May 09 00:55 BST (UK) »
Just a note to let everyone know to keep an eye on the Worcester News.

I received and email from one of it's journalists who is doing a story on Douglas Caswell asking for a few more details about him.   After a flurry of emails, he eventually rang me and we discussed Caswell and Fromelles for quite some time.

The article should appear in the paper in the coming days and will be appealing to descendants or anyone with information about Caswell to come forward.

Cheers,
Tim L.
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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 May 09 06:49 BST (UK) »
Well Done Tim

I'm here in NSW so if you  can put link up when that article is online, please do.
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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:40 BST (UK) »
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Possible for Margaret Caswell to Frederick Potter Kidderminster 1925. 


Good news!

I have searched from 1925 to 1940 and found three children to this family, all girls, born 1925, 1931 and 1935.

Obviously I cannot post their names here as they may be living but if anyone has access to electoral registers for Kiderminster they may be able to find them. Sadly I do not.
 
If someone could PM me I could pass the names on and perhaps we could make further progress.

Meanwhile I will look for marriages for them.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
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Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:09 BST (UK) »
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Possible for Margaret Caswell to Frederick Potter Kidderminster 1925. 


Good news!

I have searched from 1925 to 1940 and found three children to this family, all girls, born 1925, 1931 and 1935.

Obviously I cannot post their names here as they may be living but if anyone has access to electoral registers for Kiderminster they may be able to find them. Sadly I do not.
 
If someone could PM me I could pass the names on and perhaps we could make further progress.

Meanwhile I will look for marriages for them.

Paul

Bad news!!

I don't know why I didn't check this first but:

Births Sep 1905 Caswell    Margaret May         Kidderminster    6c   212

This is NOT our Margaret and is probably the one I have been chasing.  ???

I'll see what I can find for Nellie.

Paul
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Oswestry/Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Essex(Braintree), Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverhill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright