Fromelles missing - Horace Robinson

[Spidermonkey]

There was a military background

1891 Royal Engineer, Aldershot
John Robinson  H  Mar  33  Company Sergt Majr RE  bn Hants Alton
Mary Elizabeth Robinson  W  Mar 33  bn Hants  BInstead
Percy John RObinson  son  8  Scholar  bn Hants Binstead
Annie May RObinson  dau  7  Scholar  bn Kent Shorncliffe
Henry James Robinson  son  5  Scholar  bn Hants Aldershot
Ethel Elsie Robinson dau  3  Scholar  Chatham
William Francis RObinson  son  2  bn Ireland
Olive Maude RObinson  dau  1mnth  bn Hants Aldershot

[majm]

Possible birth for Horace's sister in law, born Redfern (Sydney NSW), daughter of Thomas and Mary.
25013/1896  TREACY  CATHERINE M  THOMAS  MARY  REDFERN  

It is likely that as she was born in NSW, that she would have stayed here after the deaths of both her husband and her brother.  

Perhaps there are descendants of her marriage to Horace's brother, still living in NSW.  

ADD after reading Spidermonkey's post
So that military background would explain why both the NSW brothers enlisted.  All AIF enlistments were voluntary, no conscripts in WW1.

[majm]

Perhaps this is the death of Horace's possible niece Kathleen M, at Granville, daughter of Henry J and Catherine M
1034/1927  ROBINSON  KATHLEEN M  HENRY J  CATHERINE M  GRANVILLE   

(Note the online index for bdm has a 99 year rule for privacy for births, and a 50 year rule for marriages and a 30 year rule for deaths, IF ANY chatter has access to the CD for Pioneers in NSW up to 1918, please look up birth for Kathleen).

ADDED I have put a request on the Australian Boards for help with that birth.
 

[Spidermonkey]

Possible marriage for Ethel E Robinson to Bertie J Wooster George Sept qtr 1914 Dartford 2a 1482

[Spidermonkey]

Percy married Ethel White in 1905.  Two children according to  1911 - John bn 1908 and Henry Kirke bn 1910.  Think from freebmd, they also had Ethel M in 1913

[majm]

Probably found Horace's niece thanks to rootschatter on Australian boards

Kathleen Mary Robinson died 16 March 1927, aged 14 yrs 8 mths,  Catholic Mortuary 2 & 3 Sec. C, Row 1, Graves 1,2 at Rookwood Cemetery (that's in Sydney NSW).  Those two graves show because there are other family members there., but they seem to her her mother's parents. 

That doesn't progress finding anyone in NSW for Horace. but hopefully, we will have progress on the UK clues soon.

I have been reading the In Memorium columns online for July 1918, 1919 and later.  In some ways I feel I am intruding, and in other ways I feel I am helping. 

I share the following verse inserted in the Argus of Fri 19 July 1918 for another AIF lad who never returned

"A Grave in France with the grass o'ergrown,
A grave in the heart of his mother.
The clay in the one lies lifeless and cold,
But memory remains in the other.

He has finished his part, we must still live on,
Trying, like him, to be brave;
Our sacrifce is in what we have lost,
His was in what he gave.

LEST WE FORGET

[fedelmar]

This is what I have in my file on ROBINSON
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NAME   Robinson, Horace Frederick            
SN   1312            
RANK    Private            
UNIT   30 Bn            
HONOUR   Standard entitlements            
BORN   Gillingham Chatham Kent            
OCCUPATION   Clerk            
RELIGION   Anglican            
DOE   20.07.1915 Liverpool NSW            
AGE   20            
               
STATUS   KIA            
DATE   20.07.1916            
AGE   21            
BURIED   Unknown            
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 2            
   AWM 117            
               
DESCRIPTION   5 foot 7 1/2 with fair complexion grey eyes and fair hair            
               
NOTES   Arrived in Australia aged 17            
               
   Brother Henry James Robinson gave consent for enlistment            
               
   ID Disk returned by German authorities            
               
   Residence on enlistment 'Roslyn', Cowper Street Granville NSW            
               
   No mention of ID Disk being returned to NOK   
NOK   Father: John Robinson
   2 Galley Hill Terrace Swanscombe Kent

   Brother: Henry James Robinson AIF 747 30 Bn

   Brother: L C Robinson AIF 1241 30 Bn
         

[majm]

The 1913 Sands Directory for Sydney Suburbs has a Harry (Henry's nick name) Robinson residing at Cowper St Granville.  Unfortunately this listing does not have a house number or name.  However, it would be fair to presume this was the residence where Horace lived with his older brother Henry and Henry's wife.

[spof]

There's an H F Robinson aged 16 leaving London for Sydney on 12 Sept 1912 on theTHEMISTOCLES owned by the Aberdeen line. Occupation given as Farm Hand.

There were 3 other Robinsons on the ship but they left in South Africa.