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Fromelles missing - Sydney Dennis
« on: Friday 08 May 09 04:33 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Sydney William DENNIS  Regimental number 1252  Place of birth London, England  School Surrey College, Brixton Hill, London, England  Age on arrival in Australia 25 Religion Church of England
Occupation Master butcher  Address Dwellingup, Western Australia  Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 30  Height 5' 8.25"  Weight 141 lbs  Next of kin Mother, Mrs E Dennis, c/o Mrs Brown, Guildersfield Road, Streatham, London, England  Previous military service Nil  Enlistment date 21 July 1915  Date of enlistment from Nominal Roll 15 July 1915  Place of enlistment Perth, Western Australia  Rank on enlistment Private  Unit name 32nd Battalion, D Company  AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/49/1 Embarkation details Unit embarked from Adelaide, South Australia, on board HMAT A2 Geelong on 18 November 1915 The 32nd Bn (Headquarters, Signallers, A, B, C, and D Companies) embarked from Adelaide, South Australia, on two ships, HMAT A2 'Geelong', on 18 November 1915, and HMAT A13 'Katuna', on 24 November 1915. The Embarkation Roll does not distinguish between these ships, and it is therefore not possible from the Embarkation Roll to ascertain on which ship an individual embarked. Those who enlisted in Western Australia embarked at Fremantle (date not recorded). Rank from Nominal Roll Lance Corporal Unit from Nominal Roll 32nd Battalion
Other details from Roll of Honour Circular 'Killed by shell while leading bombing party in an attack, 19/7/16. May I just add his life was one of [the] straightest & best and he gave it willingly.' (details from sister, Mrs Dorothy Brown, London)
Fate Killed in Action 19 July 1916 Place of burial No known grave Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No 4), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France Panel number, Roll of Honour,Australian War Memorial 120 Other details War service: Egypt, Western FrontDisembarked Suez, ex 'Geelong', 18 December 1915.Appointed Lance Corporal, Ferry Post, 26 May 1916.Embarked to join the British Expeditionary Force, 17 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, 23 June 1916.Killed in action, 19 July 1916.

Translation of German report, 25 October 1919, 'Iden: Disc handed over by Intell: Off: with 6th Army H.Q. through Central Office for Deceased Estates, 12/10/16[.] Australian Soldier S. W. Dennis, Iden: Disc 1252, 32nd Btn. fell in the neighbourhood of Fromelles on 19/7/16'.

On 20 February 1920, one of Lance Corporal Dennis' sisters, Mrs Dorothy Brown, wrote to Base Records and requested particulars about Lance Corporal Dennis' burial site. The Officer in Charge of Base Records replied on 16 April 1920 and noted, 'I regret to state no burial particulars have yet been received here regarding your brother, the late No.1252 Lance-Corporal S. W. Dennis, 32nd Battalion.'

Red Cross File No 910508: 'The above man appeared on German list dated 4-11-16.'

'Disc received from Germany AND (sic) forwarded to N/K. 11.5.17.'

Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
Miscellaneous details Sister's subsequent address: Ethel B. Dennis, 23 Richmond Road, Easter, Devon; then 362 Wimborne Road, Winton, Bournemouth, Hants, England
Sources NAA: B2455, DENNIS Sydney William
Red Cross file 910508 

http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/search?type=search&name=Sydney+DENNIS&regNum=

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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:16 BST (UK) »
This is what I have in my file on DENNIS :)
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NAME   Dennis, Sydney      
SN   1252      
RANK    Lance Corporal      
UNIT   32 Battalion      
HONOUR   Standard entitlements      
BORN   London Middlesex England      
OCCUPATION   Master Butcher      
RELIGION   Anglican      
         
DOE   15.07.1915 Perth W. Aust      
AGE   31      
   Residence on embarkation: Dwellingup W. Aust      
         
STATUS   KIA      
DATE   20.07.1916 (19.07.1916)      
AGE   32      
BURIED   Unknown      
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 5      
   AWM 120      
         
DESCRIPTION   Height: 5 foot 8 1/4 inches brown hair      
         
NOTES   On NAA Archives as Stanley William Dennis      
         
   According to his file his body was identified by its marks.  Identity disk was      
   returned by Germans.      
         
   he was killed on his sister Ethel's birthday      
         
   Fell in the neighbourhood of Fromelles      
   According to his sister he was killed by a shell while leading a bombing party      
   in an attack (AWM Honour Roll)      
         
NOK   Mother: Mrs Elizabeth Broad Dennis c/- Mrs D Brown 20 Guildersfield Road Streatham.      
   London. This was crossed out and his sister was entered with the date 08.08.1941      
   Mother died 20.12.1916      
         
   Father: William Dennis died November 1903      

   Sister: Ethel B Dennis Winton Bournemouth Hants England born 19.07.1879      

   Sister: Mrs Dorothy Brown is marked in his file as being another sister.        
Essex: PLAYLE, WHITEHEAD, PAWSEY, FARRAR, HYMUS
Cornwall: POND, DUNGEY, WILLIAMS
Kent: AUSTIN, ROSER, WILSON
Sussex: ROSER, WILSON

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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 09 10:30 BST (UK) »
Perhaps a clue or more in the following snip for a UK based rootschatter to sort out
   
         
On NAA Archives as Stanley William Dennis .....
he was killed on his sister Ethel's birthday.....
Mother: Mrs Elizabeth Broad Dennis c/- Mrs D Brown 20 Guildersfield Road Streatham. London. This was crossed out and his sister was entered with the date 08.08.1941....
Sister: Ethel B Dennis Winton Bournemouth Hants England born 19.07.1879
Sister: Mrs Dorothy Brown is marked in his file as being another sister. 
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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 May 09 10:19 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone has been able to find Sydney/Stanley William DENNIS or further clues please to help us advance any further on this lad, fallen at Fromelles. late of Dwellingup in Western Australia.   My OH and I are diligent, but are based in NSW Australia, and need some tips on further searches for his family.

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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 May 09 15:24 BST (UK) »
Sydney Dennis, no age given, occupation of Carman sailed London to Fremantle on the Orient liner OTWAY on 25 May 1911.
Bezant (London/Suffolk), West (London/Essex), Walker (Yorkshire), Phillips (West Country - believed Bristol area), Tibbetts (Warwickshire), Armstrong (Co Fermanagh), Harvison (Co Wexford), Neeb (Germany), Becker (Germany), Jakobsson (Finland). Kanneworff (Germany and Denmark)

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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 May 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
Perhaps a clue or more in the following snip for a UK based rootschatter to sort out
   
         
On NAA Archives as Stanley William Dennis .....
he was killed on his sister Ethel's birthday.....
Mother: Mrs Elizabeth Broad Dennis c/- Mrs D Brown 20 Guildersfield Road Streatham. London. This was crossed out and his sister was entered with the date 08.08.1941....
Sister: Ethel B Dennis Winton Bournemouth Hants England born 19.07.1879
Sister: Mrs Dorothy Brown is marked in his file as being another sister. 


Dorothy Dennis married Herbert E Brown at Croydon in Dec qtr 1910 Vol 2a p590

Oh joy. Following descendants here will be fun  ::)
Bezant (London/Suffolk), West (London/Essex), Walker (Yorkshire), Phillips (West Country - believed Bristol area), Tibbetts (Warwickshire), Armstrong (Co Fermanagh), Harvison (Co Wexford), Neeb (Germany), Becker (Germany), Jakobsson (Finland). Kanneworff (Germany and Denmark)

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Re: Fromelles missing Sydney Dennis
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 May 09 09:09 BST (UK) »
I have tried to find information on the Otway, to Fremantle.  Other passengers on that voyage seem to have included Adolf Leopold Drager who also enlisted in the AIF, and served in France.  He returned to Australia after the Armistice.  His service No. was 3506.   I have not yet found the date the vessel arrived in Fremantle. 
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Re: Fromelles missing - Sydney Dennis
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 15:30 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Have searched for bdm for Dorothy Dennis' children, but regret I am NSW based, so am having great difficulty recognising any possible children with surname BROWN born in London.  Regret that I have not yet found the vessel OTWAY's arrival date in Fremantle WA. 

There are around 53 pages of his AIF records imaged on line and freely available for reading.  His name on his enlistment papers clearly Sydney William Dennis, his signature is there, letters from both sisters, and other information. The link for the record search is http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx and search keywords Dennis Stanley William (look for these clues SERN 1252 : POB London England : POE Perth WA : NOK S Dennis Ethel B on the index display).  I firmly believe that "Stanley" is a transcript error.   I attach an image to support that, its a snip from one part of one page of his AIF records.

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Re: Fromelles missing - Sydney Dennis
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 18:58 BST (UK) »
Looking at the censuses, there are other sisters that the ones mentioned:

1891, 75 Queens ROad
William Dennis  H  Mar  38  Outfitter and draper  bn Devon ? Petherwin
Elizabeth Dennis  W  Mar  38  bn Cornwall Panghill
Ethel B Dennis  Dau  11  Scholar  bn Upper Norwood, Surrey
Marion M Dennis  Dau  10  Scholar  bn Shepperds Bush, Middx
Constance M Dennis  Dau  8  Scholar  bn Balham, Surrey
Adeline B Dennis  dau  6  Scholar  bn Balham, Surrey
Sydney W Dennis  son  5  bn Balham, Surrey
Hilda M Dennis  dau  2  bn Balham, Surrey
Dorothy Dennis dau 1mnth  bn Peckham, Surrey

and in 1901 are they with another relation?
128 Hall Road, Peckham
Claude C Dennis  H  Single  28  Retail butcher  bn Cornwall, Truro
Elizabeth Dennis  mother  wid  71  bn Devon, Seaton
Edith E Gorange  visitor  single  23  Butcher book keeper  bn Kent Lewisham
William Dennis  visitor  mar  48  Clothier  bn Devon Petherwin
Elizabeth B Dennis  visitor mar  48  bn Cornwall Stratton?
Ethel B Dennis  visitor  single  21  Milliner  bn Surrey Norwood
Mabel J Dennis  visitor  single  20  Butcher book keeper  bn Shepperds Bush
Sydney W Dennis visitor  single  15  bn Surrey Balham
HIlda M Dennis  visitor  single  12  bn Surrey Balham
Dorothy Dennis visitor  single  11 bn Surrey Balham