Author Topic: Woldemar/Woldermar  (Read 4269 times)

Offline marchant85

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 41
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Woldemar/Woldermar
« on: Friday 08 May 09 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hello folks
I am trying to trace any relatives of my wife`s great grandmother
Her name was Edith Emily Woldemar sometimes spelt Woldermar
Born 23 May 1893 Grimsby, Lincs
Living or dead I would appreciate any info or contact details plz

Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:40 BST (UK) »
do you have her (family) details from the 1901 and/or 1911 census ?
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:51 BST (UK) »
Just to get you started here she is 1901 - only 1 sibling at this stage ..

This entry has been researched and corrected by an Ancestry User -    paulstanton1  in Aug 2008

1901 -  RG13/3095; Folio: 54; Page: 14 - Cleethorpes
57, Grimsby Road


No Head of Household present

Edith Woldemar [sic] 30 Married Wife no occupation shown born Grimsby
Edith E Woldemar    7 dau Grimsby
Mary G Woldemar    7 dau do (Gertrude is the middle name on Birth Index)

The girls both have the same Page number in the Birth Index on FreeBMD, so most probably are twins ....
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:53 BST (UK) »
This could well be the marriage of Edith's parents ..

Marriages Sep 1892   
 
Hill  Edith    Caistor  v7a p1115   
Jackson  John Nevet     do
Tuplin  Agnes Coldine     do
Woldemar  Frederick      do


No sign of Fred in previous census w/o checking out mistranscriptions, but Edith was a BarMaid in the Albion Hotel in Cleethorpes Road in 1891 ...
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:02 BST (UK) »
Edith married after 1911, so any kids born later will be easily found in the Indexes by using her maiden name ...

Marriages Jun 1914    
 
Chester  James J  to Woldemar  Grimsby  v7a p1714   

WOLDEMAR  Edith E  to Chester  Grimsby  v7a p1714


her sister married a bit later ...

Marriages Mar 1919    

Reed  John O  to Waldemar  Grimsby  v7a p1120   

Woldemar  Mary G to  Reed  do
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:07 BST (UK) »
They seem to have popped up to Hull, where a Leslie Chester was born in 1918 ....

then back to Grimsby and 4 girls were born between 1921 and 1932, including a Margaret, Rita, Marie and Patricia .....

You can see these on the Birth Index, I wont put their full details in public in case any are still living ...

Let me know by PM if you dont have access.

Once you have these, its a trawl to find marriages and/or deaths, as the relevant Indexes arent fully keyed like the Births .

Hope this helps    :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Necromancer

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,073
  • I've updated my profile ......
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:15 BST (UK) »
Also noticed this marriage - a younger brother or perhaps Dad remarrying ?

Marriages Sep 1929  

Houghton  Doris I  to Woldemar  Grimsby  v7a p1734   
Woldemar  Frederick P to  Houghton  do


Looking at the 1911 census Index, there is a Frederick P born c1906 in the Woldemar household - no older males tho, just the 3 ladies already seen .....
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline GeoffE

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,995
  • Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:34 BST (UK) »
Dad died in 1912 (48).  Young Fred was born in 1905.  There was another sister, Eva Lilian, born and died in 1897
Don't cry because its over. Smile because it happened.

Offline marchant85

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 41
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Woldemar/Woldermar
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 May 09 15:02 BST (UK) »
This could well be the marriage of Edith's parents ..

Marriages Sep 1892   
 
Hill  Edith    Caistor  v7a p1115   
Jackson  John Nevet     do
Tuplin  Agnes Coldine     do
Woldemar  Frederick      do


No sign of Fred in previous census w/o checking out mistranscriptions, but Edith was a BarMaid in the Albion Hotel in Cleethorpes Road in 1891 ...
So who are the other two people & what does do mean?