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Rothesay Livingstone family
« on: Thursday 28 May 09 22:58 BST (UK) »
I'm interested in hearing from anyone connected to  George Livingstone who Died 1896 age 56 at Arthurlie Mountpleasant Rd Rothesay.
George ran a  Saddler and Harness maker business. His son Richard Livingstone may have carried on the business after his father's death.

I think Arthurlie may be the name of the family home.  Would anyone know if it is still standing.
Olive
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Rothesay. Livingstone
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 May 09 23:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

The 1891 census shows the address as Arthurlie House

The 1901 census shows Mount Pleasant Arthurlie and son Richard is still living with his mother and siblings - occupation saddler

Do you have full census details already?
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 May 09 01:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole W
Tks for your response. I do not have the census info on this family. I have the death record from GRO and the Will of George Livingstone that gave me what I have.   
Many Thanks for your help.
Olive
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 May 09 10:32 BST (UK) »
hi olive  :)

think this is george livingstone and sarah lawson marriage 23rd jan. 1866
neilston renfrewshire scotland

children(from IGI - all born rothesay bute)
jane livingstone birth 28th nov. 1866
sarah lawson baillie livingstone birth 2nd may 1869
richard livingstone birth 13th april 1873

hi carole  :)
does this line up with what you have found in 1891 and 1901 ?

ev

ps scotlandspeople has a sarah livingstone(other surname lawson) died
     1922 rothesay bute born c1843
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 May 09 11:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

This is the 1891 for Arthurlie House Rothesay Bute.  All children b Rothesay

George Livingstone 50  b Glasgow - master saddler
Sarah   47  b Barrhead Renfrewshire
Jane   24 
Sarah 21 
Richard   18  clerk
Elizabeth 16 
Joseph 9 
Ruth 8 
Georgina   5 
Rothesay ED 18 Page  7 Line 7

and the 1901 for Mount Pleasant Arthurlie Rothesay.  Change of birthplace for Sarah - now shown as b Rothesay

Sarah Livingstone 56  - boarding house keeper
Jane C   24 
Richard   27  saddler
Bessie   26 
Joseph   19  clerk (shop)
Ruth   18 
Georgina H K Livingstone 15 
William White 41  boarder b Edinburgh - living on own means
Rothesay ED 14 Page 11 Line 1
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 May 09 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

As you don't have census info - I thought it may be helpful to post earlier censuses for you

1881 for 24 Castlehill St Rothesay - look at Sarah's birthplace - all children b Rothesay

George Livingstone 40  b Glasgow saddler employing 2 men + 2 boys
Sarah   37  b Ireland
Jane C  14 
Sarah L   12 
Richard 8 
Elizabeth   6 
Rothesay ED 11 Page 10 Line 4
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 May 09 11:44 BST (UK) »
I am posting this 1871 entry purely because of the address, birthplace and possible correct surname.  I am sure the surnames are a transcription error but Ancestry do not have the scottish images to check

Surnames exactly as per index - address was 22 Castlehill St Rothesay

Mary Livonstone 30  b Ireland occ shown as mother roadbr keeper (possibly meant to be roadbridge)
Wilch Lingstone 22  wife b Ireland
Jane Lingstone 4  daughter of Wilch b Rothesay
John Lingstone 24  shown as daughter of Wilch and Mary is shown as father!!! b Rothesay

Unfortunately I cannot find the real Livingstone family in 1871 at the moment
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 May 09 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

From either the death cert or the will - can you say who George's parents were
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Re: Rothesay Livingstone family
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 May 09 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Ev and Carole,
YES this is the family with all the info I needed. Marriage, children's names and DOBs etc. Also, great to have them on the Census too. And the death date of Sarah Lawson. I am thrilled with your detailed input.

George Livingstone is on the 1851C for Neilston Renfrewshire. He was age 10 at that time.

His name was on his brother Richard's Will.  who had a plumbing and heating business in Neilston/Barrhead, Rfw.
 
The parents OF George Livingstone. are Richard Livingstone and Ruth BAILLIE.  I have their death records.

You have both given me so much detail. I now have lots of work ahead of me. It's been quite the task with the family following the Scottish naming pattern and each family having 7, 8 or 9 kids all with the same name.

More request from me...never ending eh!
Would anyone know if there is today a saddler and harness maker in Rothesay.

Also, if any kind person in the area could forward a photo of the Arthurlie House on Mount Pleasant St I would greatly appreciate it.
Kindest Regards
Olive
Paisley Rfw. ANDERSON,LIVINGSTONE,COWAN,MARTIN,HERD,
Rothesay. Livingstone
Angel's Camp, Ca USA. LOVE