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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 22:02 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s again. ……. Totally Leicester.

Your quote ~
“ There is a perceived family tradition that the Gibbins ancestors moved from Hallaton at some time in the 19th century”

Extract from my Poor Law Disc….
Quarter Sessions Leicester.( Settlement & Removals )

Case No’. QS6/1/14/814.

Michaelmas   1819   Gibbons   John   
Aged.3   Son   28 Sep 1819   
Hallaton to
Leicester. St Margaret. Discharged.

Michaelmas   1819   Gibbons   John      
Husband   28 Sep 1819   
Hallaton to   
Leicester.  St Margaret. Discharged.

Michaelmas   1819   Gibbons   Mary   
Aged.11   Daughter   28 Sep 1819   
Hallaton to
Leicester St Margaret. Discharged.

Michaelmas   1819   Gibbons   Mary      
Wife   28 Sep 1819.
Hallaton to   
Leicester St Margaret Discharged

OK the Name is Gibbons but this could be how the idea of the move came from ?

I have also had a look at early Population Head count ( Fore runner to Censuses )

THURMASTON South. :~ 1814.

Households of :~

Bishop. Edward.4 Males. 3 Females.

Bishop. Samuel. 4 Males. 2 Females.

Johnson. John. 14 Males. 6 Females.

Oh. .. There was another Marriage of note in Hallaton. :~

1815.
St. Peter’s Parish Church. Hallaton.

Samuel Gibbins. ~ Elizabeth Roach.
27th. July. 
By Banns.

Also was this George’s Burial ? :~
1869.
St: Michael & all Angel’s Parish Church.Thurmaston.

Parish Burial Register No’. 641.
George Gibbins.
Abode Thurmaston.
25th. November..
Aged. 45.

Hope this helps in some Way.

MIKE.
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Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mike,all info much appreciated, not too sure about the Gibbons entries, but the burial sounds right on the button for George, their youngest was born in 1868 and he does not appear around 1871. Still puzzled by how the Bishops are related in all this, whether its by kinship or marriage. Will look more into how the other Hallaton marriage connects, but feel sure it does in someway!
Carver info also proving very useful thanks Tati.
Have been able to trace various other lines now through George's wife Sarah Carver mostly in Thurmaston and through her maternal line which has brought up the Lanes and the more unusual surname of Benskin (Jane born c1786).  TL
 
Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 June 09 22:44 BST (UK) »
Hi folks, could use some more experienced eyes to help me with another puzzle from the Gibbins family, feel like I'm going round in circles at mo!
When George Gibbins moved to live with the Bishops in Thurmaston (b 1824 Horninghold) it seems to say they are his uncles.Have found Daniel Bishop (b Mar 1781) and Samuel Bishop (b Sep 1784). Have also found a marriage between a Samuel Bishop and Ann Hughes on 22/May/1823 at St.Michaels church, Blaston, Leics. Henry Gibbins (father of George) appears to have been born in Blaston 1800, so that seems a tenuous connection, but I cannot link the relationship between Bishops and Gibbins.I explored the possibility that Samuel was George's step father, but his father Henry did not pass away until Aug 1860.
Any advice or info would be gratefully received. TL
Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 June 09 23:40 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s again. ..Totally Leics.

Another connection of the Family names :~

1803.MARRIAGE.
St Michael’s Parish Church. Blaston.

Ann GIBBINS. ~ Hugh HUGHES.
Groom of the Parish of
Llaniki Merionethshire.
14th. June.
By Licence.

Samuel Bishop ~ Ann Hughes.   
St: Michael’s Parish Church. Blaston.
22nd. May.1823.
Was also by Licence.

Worth exploring the Licence Bonds held at the Records Office Wigston.
These will give you a lot more information.
Both by the Index Card System and on Microfilm of the
Litigation, Affidavit. And the Bond certificate.

MIKE. 

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.


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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike, many thanks for yet again coming up with the goods!  :)

Will certainly follow your advice and take a look at the licence bonds. Am learning all the time.

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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:20 BST (UK) »

“ Your very welcome……”

If you ask at the desk in Search Room No’. 2.
The staff will show you how the Index Card System works
It’s usually in the name of the groom
The Staff can then show you how to find the Micro film No’
which you want To view via the overhead projectors.

The down side of this is that they are NOT in name order or Date order
So allow yourself at lest 30 minutes for this task of trawling through the images.. 

Best if you copy down all the details from the Fiche of the Marriage Register first via the Fiche Reader machine.
You can then hopefully match up the names of the securer of the Bonds
Who usually turn up as Witness. .

It’s simple once you have done it……   

MIKE.
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 June 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, Totally Leicester

Have followed your Gibbins thread with interest as I have lae 18th century Gibbinses in medbourne who may (nay probably do) link to yours somewhere along. I was wading through Hallaton (at Wigston office) for Stevensons, and Medbourne-Blaston for Warringtons/Waddingtons (interchangeable there I think?).

In my family John Waddington of Medbourne married Lydia Gibbins of Medbourne at Medbourne on 9 October 1792. John and Lydia were the parents of several children including Lucy Waddington (19 Jan 1798, Medbourne) who married Christopher Stevenson of Hallaton at Medbourne on 28 Dec 1815 - and became progenitors of a clan. The christian name Lydia came to the Stevensons from this Gibbins connection I believe. I am great-great-great grandson of Chris and Lucy and (four greats) from John W and Lydia Gibbins.

The furthest I felt I could safely go back was to Lydia's parents Henry Gibbins and Elizabeth (name unknown), and I just had the two children Lydia (christened 16 Sept 1770) and Elizabeth (christened 16 June 1772), both at Medbourne. I wonder if this little family group tallies with any of your Gibbins researches in that neighbourhood and whether you can point me to a way of following it sideways and upwards??

I should be most grateful for any advice. I've been in family history research for a few years but this is my first post ever on rootschat! I joined specially to ask you this!!

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 28 June 09 23:44 BST (UK) »
PS., The plot thickens! ... I have been working on the theory that my ancestor John Waddington who married Lydia Gibbins in 1792 was one of the children of John Wa'rr'ington (the cursive 'r' and the curly 'd' become indistinguishable) and Elizabeth Turner (1723-1785) who married 12 Oct 1744 at Medbourne. (There's another John but he doesn't convince me). Children of John & Elizabeth Warr/ddington are Henry (1745), Elizabeth (1748), Lucy (1750), Mary (1753, = Robert Sharman 28 Sep 1779), Elenor (3 July 1756, = David Smeeton 25 Sept 1786), John (18 July 1761, = Lydia Gibbins 9 Oct 1792) and Lucy (1763-1792).

The key point is that Elizabeth (1748) married Edward Bishop (m 5 Oct 1778) - all at Medbourne.

So, if these deductions are okay, there is a connection at 2nd remove through the Waddingtons in the period 1778-1792 for Bishop and Gibbins family.

Hope that might help, and would love to know if this tallies with your findings.

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 June 09 01:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Mercian, one of the delights of researching this branch of the family is that it keeps me on my toes with its twists and turns!
If my facts are correct then Edward Bishop( christened 09/july/1758) did indeed marry Elizabeth as you stated although there is some disparity in their ages which intrigues me, and according to my research thus far they were the parents of Daniel (chr 31/mar/1781) and Samuel (chr 20/sep/1784) at Thurmaston. Prior to Edward my hunt for the previous two generations of Bishops have led me to Asfordby, but I digress!
Its quite late now and I need to sit back and read your information closer, but I will certainly respond soon. I am still relatively new to family history, but enthusiastic and anything I have discovered I will gladly share.
If we are really fortunate more experienced RootsChatters may read this and be able to fill in a few gaps also.  :) TL
Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar