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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 06 June 09 03:30 BST (UK) »
Nick! That is excellent news! I did see that and wrote it down but I did not see anything about a brother until now! This completely expands the possibilities that I will look into. You guys and gals on this site are amazing at this stuff I swear!

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 06 June 09 03:31 BST (UK) »
I have marked this information down and I am going to back track and keep looking through the records. Its all out there somewhere... :P

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:02 BST (UK) »
Just curious but back in the early 1800's if you had children out of wedlock were you not allowed to have them christened in the church? I may have found some information regarding the late christening of the two boys but I wanted to see everyones thoughts on that

From what I can tell Josiah's parents were William Johnston Bakewell and Sarah Bakewell (Needham). If that is the case then they had nine children and they themselves came to the US and passed away in Geneseo, NY in 1861 and 1857 respectively. Not sure if anyone can confirm or deny this but here is what I came up with

Josiah Bakewell- Born 12 February 1816, Christened 26 December 1825
William Bakewell- Born 6 December 1817, Christened 26 December 1825
Thomas Bakewell- Born 28 October 1812, Christened 15 August 1814
Jane Bakewell- Born 6 August 1814, Christened 15 August 1814
Sarah M. Bakewell- Born 2 November 1821, Died 11 March 1894
Robert Bakewell- Born 4 Novemeber 1826/1827, Christened 25 April 1829
Frederic Bakewell- Born 4 April 1828, Christened 25 April 1829
Frank Bakewell- Born 15 August 1831, Christened 29 September 1831
Fanny Bakewell- Born 28 Novemeber 1829, Christened 29 September 1831

I found the christening dates for the children incredibly interesting! Anyone else find that cool or is just me? I dont know Sarah M.'s Christening date but I will keep looking. Thanks!

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:05 BST (UK) »
If William and Sarah as Isles posited are indeed Josiah's parents, then there is at least one more brother found at hughwallis:

William Bakewell
Birth:  06 DEC 1817    
Christening:  26 DEC 1825   Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Christened at same time as Josiah.

Nick
 
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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:07 BST (UK) »
Nick im way ahead of you my friend  ;D. I found that they Christened the children in pairs it looks like. I highlighted and bolded the pairs that were done on the same days

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:16 BST (UK) »
Sorry,  I composed my last message and then went and did something else for an hour before sending it.  See you already found William b. 1817.  Great job!

If William J. age 65 in Geneseo is indeed their father, he is a clergyman which might shed some light (or not) on these interesting birth vs. christening dates.

Perhaps someone can find William Sr and Sarah coming to US on passenger lists.

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:20 BST (UK) »
Where does it list that he was a clergymen? That would explain a bunch actually! That US passenger list would help immensely. Any information is progress in the right direction

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:30 BST (UK) »
I found a document regarding William J. Bakewell and it reads

"...was originally an English Unitarian, then a Low Churchman — has since returned to the Episcopal Church."

Interesting stuff and it lines up with the NY immigration. I was also wondering how/if I could look up my families crest or coat of arms?

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Re: Bakewell Genealogy Questions
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 06 June 09 05:35 BST (UK) »
Again, my apologies.  In the 1860 US census for Geneseo, Livingston, NY, Wm J. Bakewell is shown as a 65 yo clergyman from England living with the William Cushing family...AHA!  Cushing's wife is Fanny age 39 b. England, so probably the youngest daughter you found (age is off).

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.   -Robert Heinlein