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Offline Bartonin NZ

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Fencible from Tipperary
« on: Saturday 06 June 09 06:25 BST (UK) »
I am having trouble deciphering the Town / Parish name where my Patrick Crew/Crewe/Carew apparently lived prior to joining the 58th Reg of Foot at Ballinasloe, County Galway.
On the hand written 'Attestation for Regiments' the Parish he was born in looks like Louran/Louvan in the County of Tipperary. Also his discharge paper reads the same: Parish of (looks like) Lowran and in or near the Town of Louran.
I have searched and searched but that Parish or Town doesn't seem to exist.
Patrick Crew joined at the age of 17 in 1823 and discharged November 1845.
Then in 1849 came to New Zealand as a Fencible - still no clue with Parish or Town name on any New Zealand documents eg. Death Certificate and children's birth Certificates.
Can anybody offer any suggestions as to where I can search for any other records that will show his place of birth please.

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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 June 09 08:39 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat. I've moved your post from Ireland Resources (which is for resources) to the Tipperary board. There is a townland called Loran in Bourney Parish but if you check www.thecore.com/seanruad and search for townland beginning with (change default setting to this) 'Lo' in Co. Tipperary you can see if there are any other possiblities.
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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 June 09 10:26 BST (UK) »
A possible link to a slightly later Co. Tipperary Carew record :
from Griffiths Valuation

 Name : William Carew
 Place name : Toureen
 Civil Parish : Killardry
 County : Tipperary, South Riding
 Date : 1851

any chance that the Louran could be a smudged Toureen ?


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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 June 09 11:10 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your suggestions. Shane, I'm quite sure the first letter is L which is identical to the first letter in the word Labourer. Fortunately the words Labourer and Tipperary are very close in proximity to Louran. Certainly Loran is a possibility.

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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 June 09 17:34 BST (UK) »
Genfourm has a full section on Carew Tipperary, and Carew's from 1901 census that has the family from Rossbeg.

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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 14:30 BST (UK) »
How about Lorrha.

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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 09 07:59 BST (UK) »
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How about Lorrha. 

I think that is the most logical of the suggestions

1. Lorrha is only a dozen miles from Ballinasloe, and as close as Tipperary gets to Ballinasloe. It is also slightly nearer than Nenagh in Tipperary, which is the other place he would have gone to join the army - you did not walk further than you had to in those days.

2. There are 3 Carews in Griffiths in mid 19th cent living in Lorrha

3. You are out of luck with birth records if he was Protestant. Lorrha C of I only available from 1877, The RC records do exist from 1839 only, and earliest Patrick is born that year. I assume from the Christian name that he was RC.
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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 November 17 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Your post Fencible from Tipperary re: Patrick Crew came up in my search and we are researching the same person.  I am also stuck at the same spot - Louran and wondered did you make further progress?   
Thanks

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Re: Fencible from Tipperary
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 November 17 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi.  ??
Well this is a post out of the blue.  Patrick Crew is my 2 x gr grandfather who arrived in NZ 18th Sept 1849.  No, I haven't established the town in Co Tipperary of his birth, nor any parents.  I lost my enthusiasm after a while, but oddly I have just brought out his folder again last week to have another look at it.  So this post is well timed.  How is Patrick related to you?

Barbara
Christchurch NZ