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*COMPLETED* Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:39 BST (UK) »
Hello folks

A few of us have tried without success...so throwing open here.

Can anyone find the following family group in 1861 Census - I believe as all children were born Dundee, including one in 1864, that they were probably still in area but may have been mis-transcribed:

Patrick and Helen Glancy (Glancie/Glancey) married Dundee 1855

above both Irish

children, born Dundee

Catherine1856
Bridget 1856
Rose 1858
Patrick 1860
Mary 1864

can't find them in 1861 Census or beyond....nor deaths of parents (haven't checked for deaths of children)...someone found possible Ellen (rather than Helen) and some of children arriving Philadelphia 1874, but not certain if same people.
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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:21 BST (UK) »
That imigration record that someone has found looks to be potentially the family  :) From the 1880 US census:

 Pat GLANCY, 58, labourer, b. Ireland     
 Ellen GLANCY 60, b. Ireland   
 Patric GLANCY, 20, Works In Woolen Mill, b. Scotland
 Mary GLANCY, 15, Works In Woolen Mill, b. Scotland 

Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

If you check the 1880 census on www.familysearch.org, there are quite a contingency of Glacys in Philadelphia.

As for the 1861/71 in Scotland.... ???

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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:25 BST (UK) »
Even though the mother's name is given as Mary in 1861 I feel this has got to be them living at 2 Lyon's Close, Dundee.

FromAncestry-

Patrick Glaney 31
Mary Glaney    32
Cathrine Glaney    5
Patrick Glaney    11 Mo

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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:30 BST (UK) »
And 1871 at Lochee from Ancestry-

Patrick Claney     40
Helen Claney    50
Catherine Claney    15
Patrick Claney    11
Mary Claney    6

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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:33 BST (UK) »
Clever you Nel  ;) I'd go with that. The ages for parents also seem to fit well with that potential 1880 entry in PA.

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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:53 BST (UK) »
Clever you Nel  ;) I'd go with that. The ages for parents also seem to fit well with that potential 1880 entry in PA.

Monica

Yes the children clinch it really.

Patrick is boarding with what looks like his mum Rose in 1851. Do you have that one?

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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 June 09 21:48 BST (UK) »
Ooh...looks promising folks...had tried various '*' combinations on SP but missed those. Will investigate further. Thought it had to be mis-transcriptions causing problem. Thanks for the 1880 USA find too....the Philadelphia arrival didn't have Patrick senior, but your find certainly looks to be same family group.

Re Patrick with mother in 1851...had noticed that and thought it might be him. Just need to re check his mum's name on wedding cert...wasn't that clear from memory.  Thanks again for input.
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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 June 09 21:54 BST (UK) »
Yes, his mum was 'Rose'.

If no trouble, can you post the details from the 1851...I've wasted quite a few credits on SP today and don't have Ancestry at moment.
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Re: Glancy - 1861 Census Challenge
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 June 09 22:01 BST (UK) »
At Chapelshade (according to Ancestry)

John Lynch     50
Onnie Lynch    48
Ann Lynch    17
Dan Lynch    11
John Lynch    5
Mary Lynch    8
Patrick Murrie    55
Judy Murrie    42
Ann Murrie    5
John Borron    25
Beddy Borron    30
Rose Glancy    50 lodger, born Ireland, Linen Preparer.
Patrick Glancy    20
lodger
Mick Cumingham    26