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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:01 BST (UK) »
I really can't help with the genealogy of this query - but that's never stopped me before!

I have a poem written in 1914 by a Mr Thomas Thomson, Ohio, USA (late of Craighead Mill, Lesmahagow) and in it he remembers the "worthies" (well-known people or "characters") of his Lesmahagow childhood 50 years prior.

There are a few Meikles mentioned and its just a fun thing -

"John Donaldson an' Baker Kean,
Robbie Carmichael an' Damie Keever,
Jennie Meikle an' Jennie Weir,
Mary Scott an' the Auld Scriver."

"Flesher Capie an' Carrier Tamson,
Daft Andrew Meikle an' Ross Lamb,
Bryson the Cracksman an' Auld Feeley,
John Barr the grocer an' Tartan Tam."

"Dannie Meikle an' Jamie Meikle,
An' Jock Meikle's dochter Kate,
Jamie Tudhope an' Andrew Tudhope,
An' Tudhope that married May Pate."

"Nathan Dickson in Teaths, Johnnie Shaw o' Woodyett,
An' Greenshields in Kerse an' Westown,
Kypeswaterhead Meikle, Samuel Barr in the Burn,
In Birkwoodbrigg Farm was a Brown."

There are 46 verses in total, these are the ones that mention Meikle.

There are also 35 Meikles mentioned in the old parochial burial records, only one for Kypeswaterhead (or Kips Waterhead as it is in the register).
"The spouse of William Mickle was buried 7th August 1843".
No name given.

There are a few Meikles buried in Stonehouse parish churchyard, and it may be just a coincidence but there was a family of Meikles there who farmed 2 farms - Littlekype West and Littlekype East. There is a small stream called the Kype Water so that accounts for the name - but you never know. Lesmahagow and Stonehouse parishes share a common border.
One monumental inscription in Stonehouse churchyard is for an Archibald Mickl 1722.

Good luck,

Lodger.


Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica

Thanks for the links...my OH will enjoy having a look through them to fill up gaps elsewhere in his Meikles.

As to children of Robert and Agnes....the last child listed, Martha, was definitely theirs. SP shows birth record for her so not sure about why different mothers name given for some of the children  ???

Rob will be in shortly so i'm going to leave this for him to dig deeper into

Regards

Tracey
THOMSON - Shotts, Allanton
DEANS - Lanarkshire, Bathgate, Armadale, Ireland, Ayrshire
PATERSON - Shotts, West Lothian, Midlothian
CAMERON - Motherwell, Kilmallie
WHITEHEAD - Dunblane
BRODIE - Whitburn, Stronsay
DICK - West Lothian
SEDGEWORTH/SIGSWORTH - Lanarkshire, Paisley, Durham
PARVIN/PARVEN - Yorkshire, Lanarkshire
SCOTT - Lanarkshire
GREENWELL - Armadale, Bathgate
HUNTER - Armadale, Bathgate
LISTER - Fife, West Lothian
GRAHAM - Polmont
ROBERTSON - Polmont

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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:21 BST (UK) »
Lodger

Have you ever seen the OP burial registers for Lesmahagow? Just wondered on the quality and detail of what is available if anyone wanted to go down this route.

My favourite parish so far, from what I have seen on SP is the Paisley OPR burial details which seem quite detailed given they were pre official registration.

Monica

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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 July 09 00:09 BST (UK) »
Monica,

Yes, the Lesmahagow records are worth a look, there is a list of mortcloths from 1765 that ends at 1819, then a list of deaths with varying information in sometimes quite a difficult script, from 1820 - 1844.

Other good Lanarkshire parishes are -

Avondale (621) Has a mortality book 1817 - February 1854. Good information, wife usually has her maiden surname, some place of abode given, age, relationship, place of burial, date of burial and occupation.

Cambuslang (627) has burials 1784 - November 1854, quite good and gets better in the last decades.

Carluke (629) has a very good list of burials in the churchyard 1838 - 1851.

Carstairs (633) deaths 1819 - 1854. Gives name, age and cause of death.

Crawfordjohn (636) deaths 1817 - October 1854 with good information, age, relationships, abode, dates of death and burial.

Douglas (641) Deaths 1833- 1854 gives name, age, abode, sometimes relationship, cause of death, dates.

East Kilbride (643) deaths 1821 - 1839, name, age, place of birth, cause of death, date of death, some dates of burial.

Glassford (645) Mortality book October 1783 - December 1807.

Govan (644) burials in Govan churchyard January 1817 - February 1819, also April 1820 - February 1855.

Libberton and Quothquan (650) burials 1783 - 1854.

New Monkland (651) has good mortcloths scattered throughout most of the books, in session accounts etc.

Pettinain (653) deaths 1829 - 1849 good condition, gives name, age, abode, date of death and a few have relationships including mother's maiden surname, but not many like that.

Rutherglen (654) Mortality book 1705 - 1794 good condition, gives relationships.

Shotts (655) various deaths, burials and mortcloths, some very good.

Wandell and Lamington (659) deaths 1820 - 1856 good information - name, age, spouse, maiden surname, cause of death and place of burial.

And, as usual, the ones you want are missing!
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 09 July 09 07:49 BST (UK) »
There is a William Meikle listed in my book of transcriptions of Lesmahagow deaths, who may be the correct one. Details are thin - abode is blank, as is death date, burial was on 22 March 1822 and his age was 87. This would tie him in with the 1821 census showing him being born between 1732-41. From my own searches in these records, they are pretty incomplete, with large gaps and sometimes only cursory information.

PP

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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 July 09 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hi PP, that certainly sounds a strong possibility for the likely father William doesn't it. Don't suppose you can see anything for a potential wife in his age range post the 1821 Census? There were two Williams with wives having children in the right time frame to be Robert's parents; mother's name Janet Meikle or Agnes Craig.

Lodger, that is great info  :D You should think of making this info an information post here on the Lanarkshire board. It would work well for people searching for OPR burials and the renewed interest following SP's release of pre 1855 entries.

Monica
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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 09 July 09 10:00 BST (UK) »
Hi All

We've been doing some digging and believe that Robert was the son of William Meikle and Agnes Craig. They were married 2 June 1765 in Avondale and had the following children

- John Meikle, b.1/11/1766, Lesmahagow
- Agnes Meikle, b.12/12/1768, Lesmahagow
- Robert Meikle, b.12/12/1768, Lesmahagow

Agnes Craig was born 31/3/1737 in Avondale.

Regards

Tracey n Rob
THOMSON - Shotts, Allanton
DEANS - Lanarkshire, Bathgate, Armadale, Ireland, Ayrshire
PATERSON - Shotts, West Lothian, Midlothian
CAMERON - Motherwell, Kilmallie
WHITEHEAD - Dunblane
BRODIE - Whitburn, Stronsay
DICK - West Lothian
SEDGEWORTH/SIGSWORTH - Lanarkshire, Paisley, Durham
PARVIN/PARVEN - Yorkshire, Lanarkshire
SCOTT - Lanarkshire
GREENWELL - Armadale, Bathgate
HUNTER - Armadale, Bathgate
LISTER - Fife, West Lothian
GRAHAM - Polmont
ROBERTSON - Polmont

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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 July 09 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Tracey

Does look possible doesn't it  :) Remember the first Agnes (chr. 12 Dec 1768) looks to have died as you have the second use of that name to those parents with the christening of Agnes on 24 Dec 1775.

There are no wills showing for the family that I can see on SP with the exception of William, son of Robert and Agnes, which is a pity (farmers are always good at leaving wills!). I would imagine that they may have been tenant farmers with the tenancy passed down the line. Not sure how you would research this.

Monica
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Re: Robert Meikle of Lesmahagow
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 July 09 10:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica

The family were farmers mainly. There are a lot of Meikles in the area and we've got lots of examples in Rob's tree of Meikles marrying Meikles....very very confusing!! :)

The family all were based around Little Kype, Kypeside and Kypewaterhead. We've been back to the area to look around and there are still Meikles farming the area.

I'm not sure if Rob's had a look at William's will, will check his SP stuff and see.

Regards

Tracey
THOMSON - Shotts, Allanton
DEANS - Lanarkshire, Bathgate, Armadale, Ireland, Ayrshire
PATERSON - Shotts, West Lothian, Midlothian
CAMERON - Motherwell, Kilmallie
WHITEHEAD - Dunblane
BRODIE - Whitburn, Stronsay
DICK - West Lothian
SEDGEWORTH/SIGSWORTH - Lanarkshire, Paisley, Durham
PARVIN/PARVEN - Yorkshire, Lanarkshire
SCOTT - Lanarkshire
GREENWELL - Armadale, Bathgate
HUNTER - Armadale, Bathgate
LISTER - Fife, West Lothian
GRAHAM - Polmont
ROBERTSON - Polmont