Hamiltons in Ballygawley

[hamiltonhunt]

Looking for information about my gggf, John HAMILTON, particularly birth information. I assume religion as Presbyterian based on marriage and involvement in Presbyterian Church as an adult.

John HAMILTON, Born c1837, Ballygawley, Tyrone
Father: David HAMILTON, farmer
Mother: Unnamed
Moved to Milford, Armagh in 1862 as National School Teacher
Married: 1962 in Third Presbyterian Church, Armagh

HAMILTONS in Ballygawley area in Griffiths Valuation:
David HAMILTON, Ballygawley, Meeting House Street, house, yard, garden.
Thomas HAMILTON, Ballygawley, Meeting House Street, house, yard, garden.
David HAMILTON, Collageery, 2 acres of land (no buildings?)

Since the David HAMILTON in Ballygawley has no land noted, and the one in Coolageery has no buildings noted, wondering if they might be the same person? Have no idea how to determine that. Thomas may have been related, that name does reappear in the family.

Would the Sir John M Stewart, landlord, be part of the Mt Stewart Newtownards family? A grandson (my gf) later worked at Mt Stewart Newtownards in 1922 when he married my gm.

The only likely John HAMILTON I can find in IFHF with David as father's name is in 1832 in Ballyclog. Both death record and obituary suggest 1837/38.....

Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[kintree]

John Marcus Stewart, 3rd Baronet of Athenree, was not of the Newtownards family (unless by some very distant connection).

Adrian

[aghadowey]

Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificate for your John Hamilton (born c1837)- for such an early date you need to search for church records (if they exist).
It's really impossible to know whether or not the IFHF record is the correct David Hamilton. Not sure how complete the IFHF church records are but since not all records for that period would still exist you can't know if any baptismal record exists without knowing other details like parents' names, etc.

[hamiltonhunt]

That's what I thought. It's a bit of a Catch 22, isn't it?

Any suggestions as to how to solve this since I don't know John's mother's name? The only thing I do know is the birthplace and approx birthdate and that his father, David, was a farmer. I have looked online and at the LDS site for church records and haven't run across any, maybe I'm missing something?

Have been trying (unsuccessfully) to learn anything from John being a National School teacher. Was hoping for actual birthdate or other family details. I am in Canada so a visit to PRONI is impossible. I have e-mailed them a few times with no response.

Any suggestions/ideas as to how to get past this roadblock?

[aghadowey]

Any suggestions as to how to solve this since I don't know John's mother's name? The only thing I do know is the birthplace and approx birthdate and that his father, David, was a farmer. I have looked online and at the LDS site for church records and haven't run across any, maybe I'm missing something?

LDS site (www.familysearch.org) has some, not all, Irish births 1864-c1882 in IGI- otherwise just a smattering of Irish records (both extracted and submitted).
Index to Irish civil registration is online (shows 27 deaths in Co. Tyrone for the name David Hamilton alone) but it is not easy to search pre-registration period without church records.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347

[hamiltonhunt]

Does anyone have access to Ballygawley Presbyterian Church records? Early records may be from Presbytery of Clogher. Or access to local newspaper archives? Found a gravestone transcription at History from Headstones that may be my 2xgparents so I now have defined birth/death dates and a wife's first name....

Hope to find records to tie my gf John in, verify transcription details and identify other family, siblings etc.
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David HAMILTON, born c1797, (likely in Tyrone), married Catherine UNKNOWN, died 28 Dec 1867 at age 70 years in Ballygawley, Tyrone. Buried in Ballygawley Presbyterian Cemetery.

Catherine UNKNOWN, born c1798, place unknown, died 1 Aug 1886, at age 88 in Ballygawley, Tyrone (location TBC). Buried in Ballygawley Presbyterian Cemetery.

Their son, John HAMILTON, National School teacher, born 1837 in Ballygawley, Tyrone, moved to Milford, Armagh in 1962 as a National School Teacher.
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John married 29 Dec 1862 to Elizabeth Mary LIVINGSTONE at the 3rd Presbyterian Church in Armagh City, Armagh, died 27 June 1925 at age 88 years in Milford, Armagh.

Elizabeth Mary LIVINGSTONE, teacher, post-mistress, born 27 Nov 1835 in Convoy, Donegal, died 21 Dec 1927 at age 95 years in Milford, Armagh.

Their children's names were David Livingstone, unnamed, Rev John George, unnamed, William, Catherine Agnes, Elizabeth Davidson, Thomas James Canterbury and Samuel.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jill

[SANTPOD]

Hi.

I have Hamilton relations that worked and lived at Mt Stewart, I wonder if same family.

[hamiltonhunt]

Hello SantPod

I'd be interested to find out if there are any connections as well...

[SANTPOD]

OK, for starters lets have some names of the Hamilton family of yours who worked on the mount stewart estate