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Offline ziggie

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 17:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Shellyesq

You're a whiz - thanks for all this information.  Does the social security information give a second christian name, namely Hayter?  Her headstone states Cissie Hayter Irving, Nov. 2, 1885 - May 22,1964.

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 17:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Ziggie: I found the Beallsville Cemetery burial record for Cissie Hayter. Unfortunately, I can't attach an image of the pages to this reply. Send me a personal message with an e-mail address and I'll send them off to you. When she died in 1964, she was no longer living in Ellsworth. She was living in Scenery Hill, which is about three miles west of Beallsville.

There are also burial records for Alfred Hayter (died May 4, 1926 from an electrical accident. Possibly in the coal mine) and Benjamin Lewis (her brother?) (who died in a coal mining accident).

As to your query about her marriage: Cissie Hayter must have married Alfred in England, since the passenger manifests for both list them as married. If she was married for the second time while residing in Ellsworth, her marriage record would be held by the Register of Wills of Washington County, Pennsylvania.

My grandmother was living in Elllsworth in 1914 when she married my grandfather. The marriage was held before a justice of the peace (a local judge in minor court cases), and he neglected to send a copy of the marriage certificate back to the county. Thus, there is only an application for their marriage license on file with the county. That happened in a lot of marriages in that area in the 1910s and 1920s, apparently.

Incientally, Alfred Hayter, who was listed on a passenger manifest as a miner, most likely worked in the Ellsworth Mine, a coal mine owned by the Bethelhem Steel Corporation, the second-largest American steel company. My grandmother's father worked in the same mine.

John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 17:46 BST (UK) »
Does the social security information give a second christian name, namely Hayter?  Her headstone states Cissie Hayter Irving, Nov. 2, 1885 - May 22,1964.

No, it just says Cissie Irving.  The SSDI sometimes has middle initials, but I don't recall seeing middle names.

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 17:50 BST (UK) »
Hi again Ziggie: The name index of Beallsville Cemetery shows one other Irving buried there: R.H. Sterns Irving (could be R.H. Stearns Irving), died Dec. 14, 1965. Date of birth was 11/24/1913. I searched that date of birth in the Social Security Death Index and came up with Reginald Irving, died December 1965, Social Security number issued in Massachusetts. A fairly close match, but can't be certain.

Edited: On further thought, Cissie would have been 25 years older than R.H. Sterns Irving. I think that their name in common was probably a coincidence.

If you want to poke around on the Beallsville Cemetery website, its url is http://www.beallsvillecemetery.org. You can e-mail the administrator with questions, she's very helpful.

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ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts


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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 18:07 BST (UK) »
There's an explanation here about Alfred losing his foot:  http://patheoldminer.rootsweb.ancestry.com/wasellsworth1.html

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 18:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Shelly: Excellent work, as usual. I saw on the passenger manifest that Alfred was missing his left foot, but didn't connect it with a mine accident. I thought the manifest was for his first crossing. Obviously he emigrated before 1906, then went back to England and married Cissie Lewis.

A look at the second page of the manifest says he was in Ellsworth from 1905 to 1910. So why doesn't he show up on a search? Perhaps he entered through another port?

Edited: 1920 census (above) info says he first came to the U.S. in 1905. An A. Wallace Hayter comes up on An******y, entering through Philadelphia, but I couldn't access the manifest. Also, the occupation on his WWI registration card is probably fan attendant, meaning that he watched a large ventilation fan for the Ellsworth mine.

John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16 July 09 05:48 BST (UK) »
From FreeBMD

Marriage
Alfred HAYTER married Jemima C LEWIS, Mar qtr 1911, Southamption, 2c 72

Birth
Jemima LEWIS birth Dec qtr 1885, New Forest, 2b 691.

New Forest covers Eling, her birthplace on the shipping manifest.

Ian C
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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 July 09 10:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ian C but I already have this information

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Re: Cissie Hayter
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 July 09 19:17 BST (UK) »
Where can I apply for marriage and death certificates?

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