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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 11 August 18 23:50 BST (UK) »

Just heading out for the night, but posting the following speculation in case it generates leads...  Is the following link possibly William Rodgers and Mary Johnston pre their marriage, in the 1911 census (ie. did they get married just before he went off to war)?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Charlotte_Street__Little/168445/

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Further to the above census return (note William and Mary's religion in it), here is daughter Elizabeth Rodger's birth registration:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01658/1661403.pdf

The Johnstons in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Charlotte_Street/975125/

Was Mary's first child - daughter Mary - registered as Johnston rather than Rodgers?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01743/1688354.pdf

Added: A son James Rodgers was born to the couple in November 1912 (note the Charlotte Street Little address, which ties back to the 1911 census return for William and Mary):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1600991.pdf

What looks like a possible death for James in 1914, the age is nearly right, the address was 21 Howard Street South which is so close to what has been posted previously (maybe just a mistake in house number?):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05305/4475608.pdf

BTW, in the death registration for Agnes Rodgers who died in January 1918 at 23 Howard Street South (reply #23), the informant was an Agnes Cardwell of 15 Little Charlotte Street, so more circumstantial linkages between Charlotte Street Little and Howard Street South to support the story (Agnes maybe just a family friend?).


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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 August 18 10:00 BST (UK) »
An infant Agnes Cardwell of 21 Little Charlotte St. died 1937-
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=4464.5013

James Howard died 1914- 21 Howard St. South-
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7627.29062
Agnes Howard died 1918- 23 Howard St.-
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6159.42808

Directories and valuation records might confirm if family merely changed houses along the same street (wasn't uncommon).
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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 August 18 11:09 BST (UK) »
As was sometimes the case, final news about a loved one only came later, the following entry in the 'Rank And File Casualties' column of the Belfast Northern Whig appeared on 29 May 1918 and was listed under the 'Missing' section:

RODGERS.- Rifleman Wm. Rodgers, R.I.R, 23, Howard Street South, Belfast.

Added: He is also listed in the following link (servicemen whose pictures appeared in the Belfast Evening Telegraph - in this case June 2018), contact details are provided to obtain the picture of him if you wish:
https://sites.google.com/site/greatwarbelfast/home/service-personnel-pictures-list


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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 12 August 18 11:32 BST (UK) »
Back to James Rodgers, this entry is from the 'Rank And File' column in the Northern Whig of 6 July 1915:

Mrs. Rodgers, of 17, Middlepath Street, Belfast, has been notified that her husband, Lance-Corporal James J. Rodgers, 1st Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, was killed in action at the Dardanelles on June 6.  Deceased had five years' service, and came from India to Rugby with his battalion.

He also appears in the same link previously posted above of servicemen whose pictures appeared in the Belfast Evening Telegraph.


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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 12 August 18 14:35 BST (UK) »
It is not possible to thank you enough Gaffy Sinann and Aghadowey. This is valuable family history and the generation before me are passed on now. Like all people,  when younger one doesn't really listen to family history but as time goes on it is very precious. And important that we remember.

I never dreamt there would be photographs of these men. I sometimes imagined that they were all in the Iniskilling Fusiliers and promised myself a trip to Eniskillen to glean what I could. Now it seems I can access photos by request on the link you have shown me.  Even the missing Thomas may be included as I see a possibility for him there too!

It's good (although so very sad) to have as much information as possible about their lives and the lives of their descendants. My head is spinning with all the new information!

Thank you all again

Lucy
Rodgers/Rogers N Ireland and Australia
Myers  N Ireland
Rose Ann Daly N Ireland
McKissick  N Ireland and Scotland
Susanna Hall  Belfast N Ireland
Heaney and Dargan Co Down N Ireland
Rose Anne Savage Belfast 1904

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 02 September 18 16:42 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I have used the link above and the email as given to try to obtain photographs, but alas to no avail!
I realise it is holiday time, or I may not actually have the correct email , as I have emailed twice now with no reply.
I was wondering if there is another way I could get the photographs, perhaps directly from the newspaper, if it is still in existence?
Grateful for any advice.
Thank you
Rodgers/Rogers N Ireland and Australia
Myers  N Ireland
Rose Ann Daly N Ireland
McKissick  N Ireland and Scotland
Susanna Hall  Belfast N Ireland
Heaney and Dargan Co Down N Ireland
Rose Anne Savage Belfast 1904

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 02 September 18 16:58 BST (UK) »
Lucy, I have pm'ed you regarding an alternative source for at least one of the two Rodgers newspaper photos...