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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 02:57 BST (UK) »
This looks like Grace's Death in NSW
18922/1944  SCHWARTZ,  GRACE MAID(sic) father  CHRISTIAN JOHN  mother  ELIZABETH ANNE @ NEWTOWN

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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 02:59 BST (UK) »
on  the other  thread

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DATE OF DEATH   -ON OR ABOUT 1/2/1943
PLACE   -MURRUMBIDGEE RIVER, NEAR BEREMBED WEIR, YANKO SHIRE; LATE OF YANKO SHIRE, DISTRICT OF WAGGA WAGGA NSW
OCCUPATION   -CARPENTER
SEX   -MALE
AGE   -85
CONJUGAL  STATUS   -
PLACE OF BIRTH   -GLASGOW SCOTLAND
TIME IN AUST COLONIES   -36 YEARS IN NSW, 33 YEARS IN VICTORIA
   
FATHER   -JOHN ANDERSON
OCCUPATION   -NOT KNOWN
MOTHER   -KATHARINE OLIVER

so  the  one Sue has found
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John Anderson.
Nerranderra Cemetery died 7/2/1943
C/E B. Row11. Lot 43
Aged 83/85 years.
Unmarked Grave.

should be his grave

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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 03:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes, Jenn and the death AnnieOz found is the other John Anderson burial.
This is where I meant the confusion lay with Annie Oz's finding of different parents.
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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 04:11 BST (UK) »
Is this the same mother as Christian Reuben b. 1903.

AUSTERBERRY Milly
Father: Fred   Mother Annie NORRIS
At  LA UN  ?        1893  Reg#32984

AUSTERBERRY Nellie
Father Fred  Mother Annie NORRIS
At Echuca  1895  Reg#20366

There is a birth  for a Frederick AUSTERBERRY but can't see a marriage to to Annie NORRIS.

AUSTERBERRY Frederick
Father Joseph  Mother Fanny BATTERSBY
At Landsborough  1876  Reg#10420


Death
23197/1953     
ANDERSON     Elizabeth Anne
Father Benjamin  Mother Elizabeth         
District Junee

If this is her death then I find the names of her parents questionable...a couple bearing the names Benjamin Leopold PEELMAN and Elizabeth NORRIS and  were having children in  1882, 1885 and 1887 at Echuca.    Of course it is possible there are earlier births not registered.  I can't see any earlier births unless it is this one. 

Birth
NORRIS Elizabeth Ann
Father Unknown  Mother Elizabeth NORRIS
At Ballarat   1873  Reg#14276

Some certs would need to be sighted to sort this lot out.  The birth cert of Christian Reuben in 1903 would give you the date and place of the parents marriage.

Have you any certificates relating to the family?

Cheers
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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 04:26 BST (UK) »
Now this Birth in WA.

AUSTERBERRY ANNIE father  FREDERICK mother PEELMAN ANNIE  at KARRIDALE  568 1892

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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 04:32 BST (UK) »
Frederick appears to have married Mary Frances Hodges in 1900 and had a couple of children in WA.

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This couple are at Fremantle Cemetery
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/results.php
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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 08:41 BST (UK) »

If this is her death then I find the names of her parents questionable...a couple bearing the names Benjamin Leopold PEELMAN and Elizabeth NORRIS and  were having children in  1882, 1885 and 1887 at Echuca.    Of course it is possible there are earlier births not registered.  I can't see any earlier births unless it is this one. 

Birth
NORRIS Elizabeth Ann
Father Unknown  Mother Elizabeth NORRIS
At Ballarat   1873  Reg#14276
CANDO


This is probably the marriage registered in NSW

3501/1877  PEELMAN,  BENSIT (sic) to   NORRIS  ELIZABETH @ MOAMA

Still places Elizabeth's birth outside the marriage date , hence the NORRIS surname I guess.
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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 11:40 BST (UK) »
Hello
Regarding John Anderson
We have this information including his paper clipping.
Can't see the birth of a Christian Reuben ANDERSON in Victoria but there is this registration - born to John's wife's 1st marriage.

NORRIS Christian Reuben
Father Christian  Mother Annie PEELMAN
South Melbourne   1903  Reg#4768

The 1907 birth registration of Grace in NSW has Annie as mother.

8490/1907     
ANDERSON  Grace M
Father John  Mother Annie
Wagga Wagga

there was also another child Thomas H Anderson born Wagga Wagga 1914

we also have this
1903 Electoral Roll 251 Hanna St South Melbourne

NORRIS Christian Contractor
NORRIS Annie Home Duties



Grace Anderson did marry Herbert Schwartz and we didn't have Grace's husband death certificate thank you for that info and this is Grace's death
This looks like Grace's Death in NSW
18922/1944  SCHWARTZ,  GRACE MAID(sic) father  CHRISTIAN JOHN  mother  ELIZABETH ANNE @ NEWTOWN


This is our John Anderson's grave
John Anderson.
Nerranderra Cemetery died 7/2/1943
C/E B. Row11. Lot 43
Aged 83/85 years.
Unmarked Grave.



this is all correct Annie/Elizabeth Norris had no father when born her mother married Benjamin Peelman and Annie/Elizabeth sometimes uses both names. Annie/Elizabeth was with Fred Austerberry and had three daughter including the one in Western Australia. Fred Austerberry went on to marry Frances Hodges and had two more daughters.
Is this the same mother as Christian Reuben b. 1903.

AUSTERBERRY Milly
Father: Fred   Mother Annie NORRIS
At  LA UN  ?        1893  Reg#32984

AUSTERBERRY Nellie
Father Fred  Mother Annie NORRIS
At Echuca  1895  Reg#20366

AUSTERBERRY ANNIE father  FREDERICK mother PEELMAN ANNIE  at KARRIDALE  568 1892


There is a birth  for a Frederick AUSTERBERRY but can't see a marriage to to Annie NORRIS.

AUSTERBERRY Frederick
Father Joseph  Mother Fanny BATTERSBY
At Landsborough  1876  Reg#10420


Death
23197/1953     
ANDERSON     Elizabeth Anne
Father Benjamin  Mother Elizabeth         
District Junee

If this is her death then I find the names of her parents questionable...a couple bearing the names Benjamin Leopold PEELMAN and Elizabeth NORRIS and  were having children in  1882, 1885 and 1887 at Echuca.    Of course it is possible there are earlier births not registered.  I can't see any earlier births unless it is this one. 

Birth
NORRIS Elizabeth Ann
Father Unknown  Mother Elizabeth NORRIS
At Ballarat   1873  Reg#14276

This is Annie/Elizabeth's mother Elizabeth who married Benjamin Peelman
This is probably the marriage registered in NSW

3501/1877  PEELMAN,  BENSIT (sic) to   NORRIS  ELIZABETH @ MOAMA

Still places Elizabeth's birth outside the marriage date , hence the NORRIS surname I guess.
Sue

so back to our main question where was John Anderson born when did he come out to Australia and who are his parents the death cert says John Anderson and Katherine Oliver. Why does Christian Rueben Norris have his father named as Christian Norris? when he is known as Christian Rueben Anderson. Was John Anderson his father?
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Re: John ANDERSON
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Maggie,

I think we are seeing from your summary with notation that you already held a good deal of information about your people.

Perhaps our work today has added something new to your files, though being advised of what you already had may have been a time saver. ::)

There may be some who can help further too.

Sue
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