charles edward young

[blackangel]

hi
i`m looking for the marriage date of a charles edward young and florence jessop.....i have found an army doc for a charles edward young age 38 or 39 when he signed up but it says he isnt married...i dont know if i have found the right army record or not....charles is from essex and florence from suffolk.....and a date of when he died if u can....cause i`m a bit confused with the army doc as it says he was stated in southhampto so i`m really stuck...
thanks
kirsty

[MaryA]

Maybe you could narrow down the dates a little.  What censuses do you have them on, what date is the document ?

[blackangel]

i have the 1881 and 1901 census its says hes a labourer which is whats on the army doc aswell....what dates do u want and i`l see if i can tell ya them?

[MaryA]

Well you say his age is given as 38 or 39, if that was from an 1881 census then it would make him born approx. 1843-ish but if from the 1901 census then the birthdate would be 1863-ish, which makes a big difference. 

If he signed up as a single man then that would be the point to start looking, but we don't know what date that was, maybe you do .... If you have him with wife on a census then then that would be the date to stop looking, but we don't know that, again maybe you do .....

[lizdb]

Is this him in 1901 ? (though occ not labourer)

RG13 1677 57 4
High Street Benfleet Essex

Charles E 24 Grocer warehouseman bn Manningtree Essex
Florence 25 bn Suffolk
Charles R 2 bn Little Bromley Essex
Emily Jessop 11 sister in law bn Stratford St Marys

[lizdb]

Marriage (on FreeBMD)

Oct/Nov/Dec 1898
Tendring 4a 1100
Charles Edward Young
one of brides - Florence Jessup


(It doesnt look like the army record you have is him, does it)

[blackangel]

i have his birth date as 1876 from manningtree essex and florence from suffolk.....i have the 1881 census and the 1901 census but no more and the army record does say he was 38 or 39 in 1914 which is about right but it was the not married bitthat got me thats why i need to know when they got married of if they divorced.....the 1901 census does say they were married both age 24 and 25 so either they got divorced or it isnt the charles edward on the army records i`m looking for....still dont know his death yet...thanks liz i think ur right it isnt the one im looking for in the army recs

[lizdb]

Looking at the family in 1881:

RG11 1783 56 4
Alma Sq Mistley

Robert 29 Journeyman Butcher bn Mistley
Eleanor 29 bn Bradfield
Arthur 10 bn Manningtree
Frederick 7 bn Mann.
Charles E 5 bn Mann.


I would say this is them in 1891, though Charles Edward is known as Edward. With grandmother.

Rg12 1403 163 12
South Street, MAnningtree

Mahala Young 64 widow
Frederick 17 grandson Butcher
Edward 15 grandson gen labourer
Nellie grandaughter

all bn Manningtree


Sadly this looks as to the reason why they are with grandmother:

Death
Jan/Feb/Mar 1887
Tendring 4a 266
Eleanor Young age 34

Death
Oct/Nov/Dec 1888
Tendring 4a 245
Robert Young age 35

[blackangel]

thanks so much liz...wonder what they died of may have to order their death certs i think....