Why would someone lie on a marriage certificate?

[Ebor337]

Hi Ebor,
I would by pass Albert and work on Charles Ward! Birth Marriage and Death (Grave Mi's Dedecations WILLS etc) the come back to Albert. Those Electoral reg's will take yo

Haha,  , yes dobby I have already joked with the archive people that I am going to bring a sleeping bag!!!

My only problem with Charles is that I have no details of him whatsoever, only on Albert marriage certificate (and he's dead!).

[dobfarm]

Hi again.
Charles was alive 1901 and maybe on the 1911c. He could be in the Untranscribed Deaths Accessed by looking at the original Death gro View in Free BMDs or Anc*t*y .Co. *k Subcribed or the free library Edition looking through quarter by Quarter - Year by year. The obit's in York newspaper 1901 to 1920. York cems Records and Parish burials. Local grave yard memoriel Inscription in the Libaries or family history societies. (Still use free as guest). There will be Records of him those years. Even WW 1 records (War Death  in France maybe hence no York record a Most likley)

[Ebor337]

Thanks so much dobby, I will try to digest everything you've said later. OUt for the day now but can;t wait to get back to this.



Thanks again.

[Gaille]

LOL I have a marriage cert in front of me for my gt-grandparents.

Date - ok thats correct..........

Grooms name ............ correct but missing his all important middle name.

Grooms age....... 37 - nope he was actually 46

Condition: Widower ......... maybe, but so far I havent found his 1st marriage anywhere !

Rank, ok correct.

Address - lol he was living with bride but a different address on cert (He was a boarder at her home)

Fathers name: ............ well there IS an name there, but its not his fathers name, he was illigitimate but I know his fathers name from his middle name & this isnt it! The name there is his grandfathers.

Fathers occupation: ............. Blacksmith - yeah his REAL father was a blacksmith.



Brides name .................. nope, she gave a nickname not her own name cos apparently she didnt like it!

Brides age .................... 2 years out, older than she actually was.

Condition...........correct

Address ...............correct

fathers name.............. well kind of correct, he was called James Henry, but she names him as Henry, but he may have been known as this.


Would someone Lie on a Marriage cert .............. definatly yes!

Gaille

[dobfarm]

Hi Ebor

Deaths Jun 1920
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WARD Charles M Malton 9d 427

Depending on the month of the marriage if after June 1920 and some villages being on the York boundry overlap.

Just Possible on the 1901 census for Charles aged 52  or 71 by 1920

Based on No other Charles with age and City/Town and its closeness to York!
As topic "Did they Lie?
This charles was 68. as you have found already 5 years is nothing as age difference on these old doc's

[Ebor337]

Hi Dobby and others,

Thanks agin for your help.

I'll have a think about how to get to Charles, only knowing his name and his death was pre 1920! Fun fun fun! 

Gaille, that MC crazy - i would be pulling my hair out if I had to work from that!

[dobfarm]

Hi Ebor

When your sticking the hair back!   

The Man!


quote:
How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
Unquote:
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

[casalguidi]

have had a quick look at the electoral rolls, Albert is living with one other person - Harry Ward.

This may be an obvious question but have you checked the 1911 census for this address?

Casalguidi

[Ebor337]

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have had a quick look at the electoral rolls, Albert is living with one other person - Harry Ward.

This may be an obvious question but have you checked the 1911 census for this address?

Casalguidi

Sure have Casa, its another family.