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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 16 August 09 13:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this Newbury Chap,
Inspector Morse on the go again !!!    It's been such a journey with this family, my Dad talked so much about this family in Newbury, wish I'd taken more notice of him when he told these long drawn out stories.   Now he has passed, I've found out so much more

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 12:14 BST (UK) »
And another New - George.  I suspect this is the predecessor of New Bros.


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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 20:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbury Chap,

Thanks once again, I'm not sure where the Corn Dealers fit into our New family.   I just wish I could find more details on why our News came from Ashbury and settled in Newbury.  The only thing we know is that they were certainly there in the 1820's.

That detail you last sent me on Daniel New, selling horses, I feel that he is the Daniel New b. 1831 at Chieveley, who was a Butcher Farmer, as by 1876 our Daniel New had died.

jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 20 August 09 00:56 BST (UK) »
That detail you last sent me on Daniel New, selling horses, I feel that he is the Daniel New b. 1831 at Chieveley, who was a Butcher Farmer, as by 1876 our Daniel New had died.

Whoever he was for a period in the 1870s he was an auctioneer there are plenty of similar adverts.
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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 20 August 09 18:04 BST (UK) »
Seems like you are right about the Chieveley connection ...
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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #23 on: Friday 21 August 09 02:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbury chap,
this is all great information, what website do you use to get this, or do you have access through the Berkshire Museum.
It would be interesting to know more about our New family.    Our Daniel New's son John New who married Ellen Thorn was a Policeman in London for 10 years, and he was very badly injured and pensioned out of the Police Force, and returned to Newbury to live.    We managed to get a lot of information on him in London.

Also Edmund New (John's son) of the Two Brewers Inn, his son Edmund Walter New was killed on the Lambourn Valley Railway, as was his mate, when they were 13 years of age,  have got a copy of newspaper article on this, from another Roots chatter.

Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #24 on: Friday 21 August 09 17:57 BST (UK) »
this is all great information, what website do you use to get this, or do you have access through the Berkshire Museum.
I am researching Newbury pubs - part of which involves trawling through the local paper, which has resulted in the recent posts.  I do this in Newbury Library (the papers are on microfilm), sadly the papers have not been digitised.

There is no index, I just go through the paper, week by week picking up pub related items and anything else that catches my eye.  Finding anything specific wiithout a reasonable idea of the date is almost impossible.  On Tuesday I went through the papers for 1883, next visit I will look at 1884 - its a long process, especially if I get too interested and start reading too many non-pub articles.

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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 January 10 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am also a descendant of Daniel New
You will see on the NSW BDM index 2
Marriages to Alice Halloren
1842 Sydney ,NSW, Australia
Presbyterian Church

1844 Marriage to Alice Halloren
Sydney,  New South Wales, Australia
V18442137 93/1844 LD Roman Catholic Church
Alice was Catholic

They married in both churches
Have you found his parents or birth as yet ?
I also have had no luck


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Re: Daniel New convict
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 21 January 10 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Going out to check Ramornie Cemetery today, near Grafton, see if we can find any details there
to assist you all on Daniel New
janjim
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir