Can anyone tell me more from these WW1 service numbers please?

[Lizzielogs]

Hi
I have the following info on my Grandfather's an Great Uncle's service records, can anyone tell more from the numbers ie; did they enlist together? Where might they have enlisted and where were they in the war? Any info you may be able to let me have on this would be much appreciated.

Medal card of Gower, Daniel (My grandad who survived the war)
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
Army Veterinary Corps   SE15105   Private
Royal Field Artillery   156407   Private

1914-1920

Series:  War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War
Piece:    Gibson A - Hannas J M M

What does 'piece' mean please?

and

Name:   GOWER             (my great uncle)Initials:   J W
Nationality:   United Kingdom
Rank:   Gunner
Regiment/Service:   Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text:   241st Bde.
Date of Death:   11/09/1917
Service No:   198701
Casualty Type:   Commonwealth War Dead

Thanks for your time
Saludos
Trudi

[mmm45]

Trudi
From what i see there you have the Medal Index Reference Index off the NA site.
I think the piece was the Indexers names.
You will be able to view the card on ancestry your other relative should also have one...They MAY have other info on them but not personal stuff unless maybe an address but only on a few % of these

The other entry is from CWGC

From the numbers its hard to say they joined together...i would say Daniel joined AVC first but as i havent seen JW s yet its hard to be sure.

Ancestry should have any G records that survive online only about 30% of records survive the blitz of ww2
Ill post what i find on Soldiers Died Database

Ady

[km1971]

Hi

'Piece' is an item in a library/research centre. If this information is from the National Archives, in this case it looks like a microfilm in Kew, and the two  names are the first and last on the film.

Ken

[mmm45]

John William Gower was formerly SE 17261 Royal Army Vetinary Corps so there is a possibility they joined and served together
He died so may have been illness or accident as opposed to killed in action on 11/9/17 whilst in Artillery
Enlisted Woolwich Resident Mile End.

Ady

[Lizzielogs]

John William Gower was formerly SE 17261 Royal Army Vetinary Corps so there is a possibility they joined and served together
He died so may have been illness or accident as opposed to killed in action on 11/9/17 whilst in Artillery
Enlisted Woolwich Resident Mile End.

Ady

Thanks for the reply Ady, he was killed in action as I have this

J W Gower was one of the men who died as a result of the gas shell incident, on September 11th [1917], a German gas shell burst at the entrance of a “shelter” occupied by eleven gunners of A/241. Although gas helmets were hastily donned, so deadly was the effect of the gas disseminated, that before dark, every man of the eleven had succumbed.”

His service number – 198701 – confirms that he was not originally in 241st RFA Brigade

As I know lamentably little about WW1 (but am learning fast!) I wondered how it was possible to go from RVC to RVA but from your information it seems they both did just that.

Would 'Woolwich Resident Mile End' have been a recruitment centre?

Thanks for the info every scrap is valuable

Saludos Lizzielogs

[mmm45]

Hi lizzielogs
Woolwich was a massive Royal Artillery Depot been close to Mile End he would have enlisted there
The artillery in those days used horses..did they have any prior working with horses before enlistment?

Ady

[Lizzielogs]

Hi lizzielogs
Woolwich was a massive Royal Artillery Depot been close to Mile End he would have enlisted there
The artillery in those days used horses..did they have any prior working with horses before enlistment?

Ady

Only by virtue of the fact that their Dad was a greengrocer and coalmerchant and he kept a horse (called Sankey) which pulled the coal cart  , hardly good groundwork for the AVC!!

[SofiaGermain]

Just searched JW Gower’s service number and was directed here. Apparently, I am related in some way to Trudi (lizzielogs). My grandad was Daniel’s nephew...I think 🤔

Not sure if Lizzielogs looks at the forum any longer?

[Lizzielogs]

I don't but I do still get email reminders!
I will send you a PM.