Sparks FREED

[lizdb]

Re Reply #19
I have found a Tree on Ans****y that has Frederick Jarvis Sparks FREED in it, so that may have been his real first name.................

Well, you can draw your own conclusions from the various sightings we have of him throughout the censuses, PR's etc. Unless the person who has put the tree on Anc has found any more survivng records of him, then they will only have seen what we have seen, and presumably concluded that he had all three names. As yet, I can see no evidence that all three together was his "real" name - just evidence that he used each of those three at different times.

(PS re 1841, we already have him there,see reply no 7 , under Jarvis (Larvey?) . Names of children pretty much confirm it is him.)

[peterbmillzz]

Hi Liz
you are correct of course, it may just be an "AKA", but I guess because he used it so must I.
Thanks for all your help and good hunting in your journey through the past.
Peter

[lizdb]

Hi Liz
you are correct of course, it may just be an "AKA", but I guess because he used it so must I.
Thanks for all your help and good hunting in your journey through the past.
Peter

When you say "he " used it are you meaning the person whose tree is on Ancestry? If so , you are under no obligation to make any assumptions about your ancestor's use of names just because they did!  Always keep your research and records and conclusions based from original survivng records, not on someone else's interperatation.

If by "he" you mean Frederick k/a Jarvis  k/a Sparks, again I say that we have never seen him use all three names at once, so have no evidence of which one, or which combination of any, or indeed if any at all, were what he was called at birth.

Have you managed to make contact with the person who has the tree on Ancestry? If so, have they found a christening for Fred/Jar/Sparks anywhere?

[peterbmillzz]

Hi Liz and thanks to Cas
the name here reads like Jarves...............

[lizdb]

Jarvis.. Jarves...Jervis, I would take much notice of changes of spellings. I notice neither He nor his bride nor a witness could write their names, so no one would know if the vicar had spelt it right anyway!

But this is him alright - the marriage I found on the IGI. He was using Jarvis SParks then, and it looked from the IGI christeings of their children that he was still using Jarvis Sparks when they were born.
MAybe for every day he was known as Sparks, and so that is what went on the census forms, perhaps he didnt view that as official, like a marriage or christeneing!
But why he changed to Frederick in older age we do not know....

[peterbmillzz]

The thick plotens.....................

[Marea irving]

Hello Peter

Found you by accident, looking for Jarvis Sparkes Freed. 
I see this was in 2009! 

My Great Grandfather was Samuel Freed.  My Grandmother, his daughter,  Rose Freed.  I am only just starting out on ancestry research online.  I know that he hailed from Kent and had already found his parents names, but not much more, this has been a great help.  I also have his indenture for apprentiship to a company in Gravesend dated 1858 when he was 17. My Grandmother's marriage certificate shows him to be a fisherman.

Many thanks to you and those that have contributed.

Marea

[peterbmillzz]

Hi Marea
The Freed thing I was doing was to get a work Colleague started.  He is called Jon Freed.
Got him on the go but not sure how much (if anything) he has done.

Peter

[Julie O]

Hello Marea,

I have just added Samuel John Freed to my Ancestry tree. He is the father-in-law to my great aunt - May Victoria Free (Watkins). I have spent the afternoon trawling through records of the Freeds