CARTER family from Paulton somerset.

[astley7]

Hi looking for other people who have the surname linkage my Great Granfather or further information on George Carter who moved to Wales Deri , Bargoed I believe he was born in 1831 in Paulton .
Thank you Lisa

[Trees]

I have sent you a pm but for anyone researching Paulton
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chewton/
They have the Paulton registers transcribed
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[Trees]

1871 census RG10 5389 fo 15 p26 gives George born 1826
So was he
850 25 Dec 1827 George s of  Jacob Sarah CARTER  Paulton Collier   Holy Trinity Paulton
or
856 30 Dec 1827 George son of Jacob Martha CARTER  Paulton Collier

Your George had a David not too common a name and Jacob and Martha also had a David is that a clue? Has your George got a Sarah or a Martha? Is there any family knowledge of George's parents?

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[Trees]

I am worried about the parents of George I am tending towards Jacob and Martha rather than Jacob and Sarah
You have used the George and Ruth as twins and George and Mary Ann having twins as your reasoning but the Paulton baptisms don't confirm that George and Ruth were twins there is no bap for Ruth and George was bapt
850   25 Dec 1827   George   M   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier
although the 1881 census has George born 1831 the 1871 census RG10/5389 fo 15 p26   has George born1826

I think this is more likely to be correct
George died Mar qtr 1883 Merthyr Tydfil 11a 311 age 55
this gives a birth year 1828

Both are shown as 10 in 1841 but in 1851 George was shown as 23
HO107 / 1939 p 48 fo 166 sch 191
CARTER    Jacob    HD   50   
   Sarah    WI   47         P
   George    SO   23    Coal Miner.    
   Mary    DA   14     Scholar       
   Martha    DA   10     Scholar       
   Ann    DA   6    Scholar   

Ruth was 20 a maid at the York House hotel
So were George and Ruth twins I wish we could find her baptism
her age is consistant on later censuses   
Ruth married Thomas Hew in 1860 in Paulton her death (free BMD)
Sep qtr 1884 HEW    Ruth    54    Clutton    5c   361

Your George had a David as did Jacob and Martha
I really think you have to keep an open mind here

What do other chatters think please.

[Trees]

Jacob and Sarah's George is still unmarried and living with parents in 1861
RG9 / 1679 fo 171 p21 sch 112
Jacob CARTER   HD M   60   Coal miner   SOM Paulton
Sarah CARTER   WI M   57         SOM Paulton
George CARTER SO U   32   Coal miner   SOM Paulton
Martha CARTER DA U    20         SOM Paulton


Now a George CARTER m a Mary Ann BADGER in BRIDGEND district Dec 1861 why Bridgend I have no idea she was in Merthyr in 1861 with her son James see below

John Carter was born Clutton
John Henry CARTER mother Badger was born Clutton in 1861 there are two in the same year so either Clutton 695 or 629

James John Badger was born in  in Mar qtr  Merthyr Tydfil 11a 315or 318
James is with Mary Ann Badger in 1861 RG9 4052 fo66 p13 Merthyr Tydfil

So you now have your Gt Grandmothers name But this still doesn't solve which Jacob was George's father
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Martha's Jacob is nagging at me
In 1851 HO107/1939 fo150 p18  he is widr with his children
Daur kezia PARFITT a widow
sons George 22, Henry 9
daurs Martha 14, Emma 11

In 1861 he is with Kesia now married to Mark HALL their three children and son Henry

So his George is not with father Jacob was he in Wales courting Mary Ann?

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Great gran
Mary Ann BADGER Mar qtr 1840 Merthyr Tydfil 26 378
She is on 1841 HO107/1415/9 fo 59 p 28
with parents James and Rebecca and sister Maria   James was a nailor

[Trees]

I wonder if this is the missing George
RG10/2470 fo 36 p8 1871 for Paulton
George 42 a collier of Paulton
Mary of Camerton
Joseph 8 Paulton
Martha 5 Paulton
Eliza 3 Paulton

CARTER   George   /SNOOK   Mary   Camerton, St Peter marriage 1862

With a Martha so near the top of the children this could be Jacob and Martha's George

What do others think?

[Trees]

By the way this site http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/ givesthe BMD's for the Somerset districts and gives the mother's maiden name for the birth entries but not the quarter only the year so if you use it alongside of Free BMDs you should get a good idea of when a child was born and the mother's maiden name its a good one to bookmark for any Somerset research
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