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rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« on: Thursday 03 March 05 13:08 GMT (UK) »
hi all,
im looking for any info on rose maud vaughan  dob 1873 we do beleve she was from port talbot and were not sure if one of the her family was a mayor of port talbot ?.
she married a  thomas vicarage cullwick and  she had 2 kids both born in newport violet ( my nana)and albert
many thanks if you can help.
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 March 05 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian

Do you have the marriage certificate for Rose?

Wendi
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 March 05 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian

Do you have the marriage certificate for Rose?

 hi wendi,
  no marriage certificate , we don't no much about  vaughan/ cullwick side of the family,
we no that  rose maud cullwick died in 1919 and thomas could not bring the 2 kids up by himself, so nana was put in the workhouse and her brother ran off to sea,
and  thats all we no about them.
 many thanks for your help wendi.
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 March 05 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian,

What kind of documents do you have? Your Mom's birth certificate perhaps?

There is a Rose Vaughan born in Wales, on the 1881 Census and again on the 1901 Census, but you do need to start with some concrete evidence before we run off and assume that this is your Rose.

Wendi
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unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

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FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 March 05 19:44 GMT (UK) »
hi wendi,
all we got on  rose maud vaughan  (dob 1873)is that she  married thomas vicarge cullwick in 1905 in newport
 and thats  all we no about them.
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 09:14 GMT (UK) »
OK Ian, if you visit http://freebmd.rootsweb.com and search for Thomas Cullwick marriage in 1905 you'll find details of his marriage and how to obtain a copy of his marriage certificate from the Newport Registar, for which there is a small fee.  I'm presuming that you are in The UK, it can still be done from abroad, but slightly differently.

This will give you the full name of the person he married, their ages, from which you can work out in what year they were born, AND (hopefully) both their fathers names, together with their addresses at the time of the wedding.

I would suggest you next obtain both birth certificates, if you can, as this will give you the names of both parents.

Once you have both parents names you can be sure that any Census records you are looking at belong to your relatives, and that you have not spent loads of time chasing someone else's family!

The 1901 Census is available on-line at http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk

and the 1881 from http://www.familysearch.org but be aware that, in general, on this site Monmouthshire is listed as in England

And, of course there are some v-nice people  :) on this site who will try to help with look-ups on other Census for you

Good Luck!
Wendi
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unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

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BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 May 05 21:05 BST (UK) »
I know quite a bit about Thomas Vicarage Cullwick but nothing about his wife or family.  He was a grandson of Vicarage Cullwick (1811-1850) and a son of Samuel Cullwick (1842-1901).   Grandfather was born in Claverley, Shropshire.  Father was born in Rednal, Worcestershire.

Children of Samuel (1842-1901 and Harriet (1842-1889) (nee PADDOCK) CULLWICK were:

1. Thomas Vicarage Cullwick.  Born June 1868 quarter in West Bromwich R.D..  Md in Newport, Gwent in 1905.  In 1891 census, Thomas is 27, head, living West Bromwich.  Md Rosa (1873-1919).  Thomas died in Newport R.D. in 1917 aged 51. 
2. Hannah Cullwick.  Born Sept 1869 in W Bromwich R.D.  Md Thomas SPINKS (1865-) on 25th December 1889 in St Johnís Church in West Bromwich. 

In 1901 census, at 8 Newhall St, West Bromwich (4 rooms) (south of West Brom centre in the Lyng Road/Kelvin Way area):
Thomas SPINKS, head, 35, malleable iron moulder, b Walsall
Hannah SPINKS, wife, 32, b West Brom
Samuel SPINKS, son, 12, b West Brom
Edith SPINKS, dau, 8, b West Brom
Harry SPINKS, son, 2, b West Brom
George SPINKS, son, 3 months, B West Brom
Samuel CULWICK, father in law, widower, 57, axle box carter, b Rednal, Worcs.

3. Alice Cullwick. Born 27th October 1872 in Glue Yard, West Bromwich (West Bromwich R.D.).  Father Samuel was an iron moulder at the time of her birth, and registered the birth (signed).  Md BRIGGS or MULLISS in 1892 in West Brom RD.  In 1891, Alice is 18, b West Bromwich, dau, living WB.

In 1881 census, Samuel is living at 1 Earl St, West Bromwich:
Samuel CULWICK, head, 38, b Rednal, moulder
Harriet CULWICK, wife, 38, b West Brom
Thomas CULWICK, son, 13, scholar, b West Brom
Hannah CULWICK, dau, 11, scholar, b West Brom
Alice CULWICK, dau, 8, scholar, b West Brom

In 1891 census, at 61 Sandwell Road, West Bromwich:
Samuel CULLWICK, head, widower, 46, axlebox caster, b Rednal, Salop (sic)
Alice CULLWICK, dau, single, 18, b West Bromwich
Samuel CULLWICK, grandson, 2, b West Bromwich
Thomas SPINKS, son in law, md, 24, malleable iron caster, b Walsall
Hannah SPINKS, dau, md, 22, b West Brom
Emily SPINKS, granddau, 2 months, b West Brom

Hope that info helps from the Cullwick side.  Vicarage had over 60 grandchildren, but only 2 of them carried the Christian name Vicarage - the other was a Charles Vicarage PACE.
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 23:20 BST (UK) »
Have found Rose Maud Vaughan in 1881 census.  Family is living at Pye Corner, Rogerstone:
Henry C VAUGHAN, head, 37, locomotive engine driver, b Herefordshire
Mary A VAUGHAN, wife, 40, b Tredegar
Sarah A VAUGHAN, dau, 17, b Abergavenny
Henry C, son, 13, b Abergavenny
Emily L, dau, 11, b Abergavenny
William A, son, 9, b Abergavenny
Rose M, dau, 7, b Blaenavon, Mon
Thomas J, son, 6, b Blaenavon
Albert E, son, 4, b Rogerstone
Ada E, dau, 3, b Monmouthshire

No sign of a Port Talbot link - but possibly that might be on Mary's side rather than Henry's.
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Re: rose maud vaughan from port talbot ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 June 05 20:42 BST (UK) »
hi grem
many thanks for the info on thomas vicarage cullwick and rosa, the family never had much info on him until now thanks to you, i did find this web site about the cullwick
 http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/lines/cullwick/vicarage.htm
i think its  the same family.
thanks for your help
atb ian.h
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christoe.cornwall
anstice.bristol-newport
hughes,newport
murphy ireland-newport
cullwick Birmingham-newport
smart -bristol
vaughan- hereford- newport
bennett-bristol-newport

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