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McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« on: Friday 04 September 09 04:31 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

I am looking for anything on the birth of an Alexander McCrum (i believe around the 1838) death certificate states that his fathers name was Isaac McCrum and Eliza Unknown.

I doo hope someone can help me or send me in the right direction as to finding relatives from Ireland have had no luck so far.

look forward to hearing from you

Jennifer

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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 September 09 08:10 BST (UK) »
Civil registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages in Ireland started 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages) so for earlier dates you need to search for church records (if they exist).
There were several Isaac McCrums in Newry apparently- see index to civil registrations (search for isaac m'crum then select event (death) and there are 4 results).
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 September 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
Records for this period are patchy at best.

Quite promising, though, is the marriage in 1854 in Newry Parish (Presbyterian) of an Isaac McCrum, son of Isaac, to a Mary.  The brother of your Alexander?

Then there's Agnes, daughter of Isaac, who married George Murphy in 1854 at Downshire Road Presbyterian Church.

There's also a Joseph, son of Isaac, who married Susan Boyd in 1851, though this time the surname is given as McCrumb.
 
In the 1864 Griffith Valuation, there are two Isaac McCrums in Newry Parish, one in Desert and one in Finnard.

In the 1911 census, there's an Isaac in Castle Enigan, Newry Parish.  He's a young man, not of the generation you're interested in, but he may be a descendant.  (There's only one other Isaac in Ireland at this point, in Antrim.)

In 1903, a 23 year-old Isaac, carpenter, sailed to New York.  He came from Newry.

There's a death in 1881 of an Elizabeth McCrum, but it's in Banbridge not Newry.

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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 September 09 11:34 BST (UK) »
Isaac does seem to be a very common first name in the McCrums so you'd need to be careful and not get them all confused.
A Joseph McCrum, son of Isaac, married 1851 Newry to Susan Boyd. This records and lots other McCrums found here-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Mc/McCr.htm
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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 September 09 13:08 BST (UK) »
Isaac does seem to be a very common first name in the McCrums so you'd need to be careful and not get them all confused.

Certainly, none of the items above proves anything in relation to a connection to the McCrum family that creepy is looking for.   It doesn't even prove any connection between the items quoted.    You'd need to get hold of the detail of the records to say any more on that front.

However, I don't think Isaac is very common, at least in terms of the available records.  I'd be optimistic that somewhere here there is indeed a genuine connection.

More info would be good - religion, occupation etc.

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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 September 09 13:09 BST (UK) »
Agree that there's a good possiblity that all those Isaac McCrums could be connected but as there look to be several around at the same time great care need to be taken when searching the records not to make any assumptions.
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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 September 09 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Thankyou all so much for your wonderful and much needed help, I guess i really need to find out more about Alexander who immigrated to australia, havent been able to find him either. 

The occupation of every one of my McCrum's so far is Boot Maker

So i do hope this is of some help!

Are there any paid sites for Ireland or is there basically not much available.

Look forward to hearing from you all

Jennifer

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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 September 09 20:52 BST (UK) »
Jennifer,

Try this one :  http://www.irish-roots.ie/

You'll need to pay, I'm afraid.  Try one & see if the parents' names match.  If you're lucky it might give the father's occupation and location.

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Re: McCrum's of Newry Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 September 09 20:06 BST (UK) »
  Hi  Jennifer,
   Have a look at http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/index2.htm
  There is info on the   Newry.

   Cheers,   Sam
Cantley,   Kentley,  Green, Greene,  Boyd,  Hartley, Froud.