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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 June 15 12:40 BST (UK) »
The most likely candidate I've found is:

John Tulloch*
Birth 22 MAR 1808 in Boness, Linlithgowsh
Death 10 APR 1882 in Loues Square Calderbank Eastern Monklands

Son of William Tulloch and Susan Alexander

First wife Naomi Muir (1808 – 1841), by whom has children William(1833-?), John (1835 – 1901), Archibald (1836-?) &  James (1841 – 1889)

Second wife Barbara Addison (1819 – 1883), children Anne (1851)

Reason being this man is listed variously as a ships carpenter and boat-builder in the censuses.

The man above is of about the right age, the right name, and the right profession, in about the right area.... but it doesn't prove its the same person.

Against that, there's a single reference in the Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury, 28 July 1849, to the sudden death of a John Tulloch on a ship. I know nothing else about this person, but it's a salutary reminder that, just because everything else fits, it doesn't mean the first person is the right one.
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Hi Joe,  If this is correct then you are talking about a very distant ancestor in my husbands family. I will need to look at my family tree but can not do this for a couple of hours as I am at the National Arboritum for the day. Kind regards Lyne
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 June 15 23:25 BST (UK) »


Hi Joe,

John Tulloch and Naomi Muir are my husbands great great great grandparents, he descends through James line.

To be quite honest I don't really know anything about his life, so do not know if he is the John Tulloch you are looking for or not.

I did find this little bit of information,
  The nine passengers taken off by Grace Darling were these :
— John Kidd, fireman, Dundee; Jonathan Tickett, cook,
Hull; John M'Queen, coal-trimmer, Dundee; John Tulloch,
carpenter, Dundee; James Nicholson, fireman, Dundee;
D. Donovan, fireman (passenger), Dundee; James Keeley,
weaver, Dundee; Thomas Buchanan, baker, Dundee; Mrs.
Dawson of Hull, bound for Dundee, with her two children, both
of whom died from exposure on the night of the wreck.

At this site http://archive.org/stream/haunteddundeemill/haunteddundeemill_djvu.txt but again it doesn't prove anything as to whether he is the John Tulloch you are looking for.

Kind Regards
Lyne
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 June 15 20:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Joe,
I meant to ask you where you got your information about John Tulloch from as John was actually born on 5th September 1807 and christened on 13th September 1807 in Polmont.

Name: John Tulloch 
Gender: Male 
Christening Date: 13 Sep 1807 
Christening Place: , POLMONT, STIRLING, SCOTLAND 
Birth Date: 05 Sep 1807 
Father's Name: William Tulloch 
Mother's Name: Susan Alexander



Also what is your interest in him, is he related to you somehow or are you researching him because he is a survivor of the SS Forfarshire wreck.

Kind Regards
Lyne

Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 June 15 23:22 BST (UK) »


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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 June 15 09:28 BST (UK) »


I,m not sure if Bob is still living (I hope he is though). We haven't had contact for a long time.

And I am a plonker because I got the Stewarts muddled with my Tullochs so sorry about that Joe, only just noticed when I reread my posts.
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 June 15 12:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys.

The details for the John Tulloch I've mentioned above, are a combination of census records and then more detailed info via a consensus of member trees, all on ancestry.

I am researching the Forfarshire disaster and its aftermath, including trying to put together the biographies of all the victims, and the subsequent life stories of the survivors.

Of those, John Tulloch is important, being the de-facto leader of those stuck on the wreck and on the rock, and then rescued by the Darlings. Tulloch stayed in the area as a representative of the Hull Steam Packet Company for a little while, but then effectively disappears from the record.

One or two of those survivors that you've listed, later wrote memoirs for newspaper articles decades later. There was another group of survivors, too, who fled the ship in a lifeboat just before it struck, and again, some of their stories are (at least part-)known, while others just vanish into history.

The John Tulloch in the census records is about the right age, from about the right place, and is the only John Tulloch who identifies himself in the census records as a ship's carpenter - the role and occupation of the Forfarshire survivor.

This is, of course, nowhere near enough to confirm they are one and the same - hence I was hoping that there might be some family legends or other research to identify the man that was rescued by Grace & William Darling, and who rowed out a second time with William to save the others.

It would be a great story to restore to a family, and a notably resourceful and brave man from history could be given his context and biography.


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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 June 15 15:15 BST (UK) »
Tulloch's the commonest name on the gravestones at North Ronaldsay old kirk, unfortunately the earliest stone is 1800 but no doubt Tulloch's therein are your folk.

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 June 15 18:53 BST (UK) »


Hi Joe,

I,m really sorry that I cannot help you with the information you need. I have the families of three of John Tullochs children in my tree and to be honest they have spread out, some went to Edinburgh, some Glasgow others to different parts of Stilringshire.

It would be very interesting to find out if my husbands great great great grandfather is the James Tulloch who was rescued by Grace and William Darling, and who rowed out a second time with William to save the others.
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Tulloch Family, Polmont,Stirlingshire
« Reply #17 on: Monday 28 February 22 11:45 GMT (UK) »


I,m not sure if Bob is still living (I hope he is though). We haven't had contact for a long time.

And I am a plonker because I got the Stewarts muddled with my Tullochs so sorry about that Joe, only just noticed when I reread my posts.
Hi I typed in on chrome Duncan Stewart Married Jean Hutton,and up popped your Q on here.. Do those names ring at all on your Stewart line at all? I know where the Huttons went to live but cannot find where Duncan an Jean moved (If they moved!) I know that one of their sons whom is my 5x Great grandparents John stewart an Janet Leckie.

I look forward to your correspondence

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Gill

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