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Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« on: Thursday 08 October 09 20:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for any information for the parents of Joseph Burnside born circa 1826 in Cockerton.
I have pretty much all the information from census records and marriages, he was married twice both certificates show no father. I know that begs the question was he illegitimate, very possible. I have trawled the IGI & the BTs to no avail. The only clue I can find is via the census which is that Joseph is living with his uncle Robert Burnside (b circa 1780 at Brafferton) in 1841,1851 & 1861. If Robert was indeed Josephs Uncle then the lack of a fathers name would suggest that Joseph was born to a sister of Roberts, and heres the bug bear, possible sisters for Robert show as being a wee bit to old to be bearing children ( youngest I can find would have been 49 when Joseph was born, not impossible, but unlikely) So hopefully a fresh pair of eyes can help me with this.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
have you looked under the name 'jos burnsides' as he is head of household aged 36 in 1861 born in cockerton, which would be your josephs age, unfortunatly where i found him (igi pilot search) there were no futher details, (to add im not the greatest at searching though)

just a thought

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 18:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Inicky

Thank you for your interest. As I mentioned I have pretty much everything on Joseph as regards census entries.
You are right about Jos Burnsides in the 1861 census they are one and the same. Joseph consistently gave his birth place as cockerton in census returns. I was hoping someone may have access to the parish registers for cockerton. Also while I am here I would like to thank you for the link to the non conformist (Wesleyan) baptisms for the gateshead area, very useful.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 October 09 19:30 BST (UK) »
The parish church for Cockerton is Darlington (in BT's under Parlington).  You have looked there I take it?  I see the records don't so that high.

Up to 1812 I see three Burnsides baptisms.  I suppose you could keep a name in back of your mind:

Mary Burnside born 10 Aug 1799, baptised 23 Aug 1800 1st daughter of John Burnside, labourer, native of Brafferton in the parish of Aycliff by his wife Ann Parkin, native of Monk Heslington (sic) in this county.

I think Mary married in 1835 to a Francis Dinsdale if it is the same Mary Burnside.

Janis
Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 October 09 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Janis

Yes I did check the BTs for Parlington but they only go upto 1820 :'(  my Joseph was born circa 1826.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 October 09 20:09 BST (UK) »
I am thinking the uncle might be a great uncle and Robert and John are brothers being both born Brafferton.

Looking at Aycliff in the IGI  both Robert and John have a father named Joseph.

Janis
Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 October 09 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Janis

I did think (and still do) that Robert could be a great uncle. The age difference was just a wee bit beyond the norm.
I think I need to investigate a later generation of Burnside. I did notice a Benjamin Burnside which warrents further investigation. However without a birth/baptism for my Joseph it would only be speculation.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 09 01:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Gary,

I have done some research on the Burnside families but don't have a Joseph or Robert that would fit yours. They will probably link up somewhere and I can check for Joseph's baptism next week at the library.

Cockerton was in the parish of St Cuthbert's, Darlington, until Holy Trinity opened.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 October 09 05:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin

A lookup would be most appreciated. As it seems doubtfull there would be a father named a mother would be a real bonus.

Regards Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington